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Discovery of WWII veteran buried in cardboard box in Florida cemetery sparks outrage
BUSHNELL, Fla. – The discovery of a World War II veteran buried in a cardboard box at Florida National Cemetery has triggered outrage in Congress.
Workers made the discovery after they removed a headstone at the cemetery in Bushnell during routine maintenance, myFOXtampabay.com reported Saturday.
The veteran named Lawrence Davis Jr. died in 2004 and had no loved ones to make funeral arrangements for him. He was buried in a shallow grave with no casket.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/06/02/discovery-wwii-veteran-buried-in-cardboard-box-in-florida-cemetery-sparks/?intcmp=obinsite#ixzz1wq9Z6sGU
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Obama spits on Vietnam vets
Exclusive: Mychal Massie flays BHO for multi-hour closure of Memorial Wall
Barack Obama has said and done many condemnable anti-American and anti-military things, even since he has been in the White House. But, short of his advocating the wholesale slaughter of unborn children, nothing comes remotely close to what he did to the veterans of Vietnam on Memorial Day at The Wall – the Vietnam Memorial.
For reasons we can only suspect, he, with forethought and malicious intent, closed the Memorial to veterans, families and friends on Memorial Day. Some of those shut out of the Memorial had traveled at great personal expense for the opportunity to pay their annual respects to family members, friends, neighbors and fellow servicemen whose names are inscribed on The Wall.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/06/obama-spits-on-vietnam-vets/
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Been out of the loop for a while so let me feel you in - my daughter and son-in-law, (both active duty Marines) gave birth to our next generation of fighting men. My Grandson Dominic is my newest pride and joy, brought in to the world by two of Americas finest!!!
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swandive4 wrote: Been out of the loop for a while so let me feel you in - my daughter and son-in-law, (both active duty Marines) gave birth to our next generation of fighting men. My Grandson Dominic is my newest pride and joy, brought in to the world by two of Americas finest!!!
Congratulations to them and you. And please thank them for their service.
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Thank you loner, I will do just that!
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Sec Def Leon Panetta has declared June as Gay Pride month in the military. He says like other celebrations, such as Black History Month, it will be celebrated with hallway displays and activities.
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swandive4 wrote:
Been out of the loop for a while so let me feel you in - my daughter and son-in-law, (both active duty Marines) gave birth to our next generation of fighting men. My Grandson Dominic is my newest pride and joy, brought in to the world by two of Americas finest!!!
Howdy Swan! Been too long brother. And, congrats to the family from this vet.
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swandive4 wrote: Been out of the loop for a while so let me feel you in - my daughter and son-in-law, (both active duty Marines) gave birth to our next generation of fighting men. My Grandson Dominic is my newest pride and joy, brought in to the world by two of Americas finest!!! Congratulations swandive! Congratulate your daughter and son-in-law for me too, along with my thanks for their service!
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RetiredE8 wrote: Sec Def Leon Panetta has declared June as Gay Pride month in the military. He says like other celebrations, such as Black History Month, it will be celebrated with hallway displays and activities.
GAG me!!! Why should they be thanked and celebrated on the basis of their sexual disoreintation?! It should just be AMERICAN PRIDE!!!!!!
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Admin discipline recommended in Quran burning
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Associated Press has learned that a U.S. military investigation is recommending that as many as seven U.S. troops face administrative punishments, but not criminal charges, in the burning of Qurans at a U.S. base in Afghanistan in February.
U.S. military officials say the classified report and recommendations for disciplinary action against the service members involved were delivered to the Pentagon more than a week ago. No final decisions have been made.
Several Qurans were thrown into a garbage fire pit, setting off riots among Afghans.
U.S. officials say one Navy service member and as many as six Army soldiers face punishment that can range from a letter in their file to docking their pay. .
U.S. military officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the matter is under review.
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2012/06/20/admin-discipline-recommended-in-quran-burning/?subscriber=1
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loner1115 wrote: Admin discipline recommended in Quran burning
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Associated Press has learned that a U.S. military investigation is recommending that as many as seven U.S. troops face administrative punishments, but not criminal charges, in the burning of Qurans at a U.S. base in Afghanistan in February.
U.S. military officials say the classified report and recommendations for disciplinary action against the service members involved were delivered to the Pentagon more than a week ago. No final decisions have been made.
Several Qurans were thrown into a garbage fire pit, setting off riots among Afghans.
U.S. officials say one Navy service member and as many as six Army soldiers face punishment that can range from a letter in their file to docking their pay. .
U.S. military officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the matter is under review.
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2012/06/20/admin-discipline-recommended-in-quran-burning/?subscriber=1
Whatta pile of road apples!!!!!
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High court strikes down Stolen Valor Act
By Tom Curry, msnbc.com National Affairs Writer
Updated at 4:15 pm ET The Supreme Court on Thursday struck down a federal law called the Stolen Valor Act which prohibits a person from falsely claiming that he has been awarded a military honor.
The case involved Xavier Alvarez who was an elected member of the Three Valleys Municipal Water District Board in Pomona, California.
In 2007 Alvarez said at a public water district board meeting that he was a retired Marine, had been “wounded many times,” and had been “awarded the Congressional Medal of Honor” in 1987.
In fact, he never served in the United States armed forces.
Alvarez pleaded guilty to violating the Stolen Valor Act, but claimed that his false statements were protected by the First Amendment right of free speech.
The majority opinion by Justice Anthony Kennedy said, “The remedy for speech that is false is speech that is true. This is the ordinary course in a free society.”
Related: Lying about military service? Bloggers have you in their sights
Kennedy quoted from the famous dissent by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes in the 1919 Abrams decision: “The best test of truth is the power of the thought to get itself accepted in the competition of the market.”
Kennedy said, "Some false statements are inevitable if there is to be an open and vigorous expression of views in public and private conversation, expression the First Amendment seeks to guarantee."
Recommended: Supreme Court upholds health care law
Writing a dissent for himself, Justice Clarence Thomas and Justice Antonin Scalia, Justice Samuel Alito said a long line of prior court decisions recognized “that the right to free speech does not protect false factual statements that inflict real harm and serve no legitimate interest.”
Alito said, “Legitimate award recipients and their families have expressed the harm they endure when an imposter takes credit for heroic actions that he never performed. One Medal of Honor recipient described the feeling as a ‘slap in the face of veterans who have paid the price and earned their medals.’”
Alito said diluting the effect of military awards “harms the military by hampering its efforts to foster morale and esprit de corps.”
Now I'm really ticked off!!!
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My question is, if this type of lying is ok, where is the line drawn?
Is it okay to lie in an effort to commit fraud?
Is it ok to lie to promote a product?
Is it ok to lie to convict a person of a crime they didn't commit.
Is it ok to lie to congress.
How about lying ot federal investigators? Martha Stewart went to jail for the crime of lying.
How about someone that claims a medical or law degree, that they don't have?
What about all the people that have been fired for lying on a job application?
This is one of a bunch of very bad SC decisions.
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Despite waiting lists, new homes for veterans in California sit empty
SAN FRANCISCO, Calif. — Two years ago, 64-year-old Air Force veteran Cheryl Stewart began gathering books and blankets to donate to a state-run nursing home for veterans, which was scheduled to open this spring.
But though it finished building the 300-bed facility in April, the California Department of Veterans Affairs said this week the state budget crunch means no veterans will be able to move into the Fresno veterans home until October 2013, more than a year from now. The same is true for a new 150-bed facility in Redding that the department recently finished building, said Jaime Arteaga, a spokesman for the agency.
http://openchannel.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/07/12616621-despite-waiting-lists-new-homes-for-veterans-in-california-sit-empty
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Herb wrote: loner1115 wrote: Admin discipline recommended in Quran burning
WASHINGTON (AP) - The Associated Press has learned that a U.S. military investigation is recommending that as many as seven U.S. troops face administrative punishments, but not criminal charges, in the burning of Qurans at a U.S. base in Afghanistan in February.
U.S. military officials say the classified report and recommendations for disciplinary action against the service members involved were delivered to the Pentagon more than a week ago. No final decisions have been made.
Several Qurans were thrown into a garbage fire pit, setting off riots among Afghans.
U.S. officials say one Navy service member and as many as six Army soldiers face punishment that can range from a letter in their file to docking their pay. .
U.S. military officials spoke on condition of anonymity because the matter is under review.
http://www.gopusa.com/news/2012/06/20/admin-discipline-recommended-in-quran-burning/?subscriber=1
Whatta pile of road apples!!!!!
That's like punishing WWII soldiers for burning Nazi propaganda. Don't those idiots running this country realize that the Koran is the book that inspires those jihadist maniacs?
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Herb wrote: My question is, if this type of lying is ok, where is the line drawn?
Is it okay to lie in an effort to commit fraud?
The answer to that should be NO.
Is it ok to lie to promote a product?
The answer to that should be NO.
Is it ok to lie to convict a person of a crime they didn't commit.
The answer to that should be NO.
Is it ok to lie to congress.
Why can't you lie to a bunch of people who make their living telling lies?
How about lying ot federal investigators? Martha Stewart went to jail for the crime of lying.
She shouldn't have said anything. You have the right to remain silent. At least you used to. After the Patriot Act got passed I'm not sure that you do any more.
How about someone that claims a medical or law degree, that they don't have?
Sounds like fraud to me.
What about all the people that have been fired for lying on a job application?
Sounds like more fraud.
This is one of a bunch of very bad SC decisions.
I agree.
I remember reading a long time ago, I can't remember exactly where, that Thomas Jefferson wanted lying to not be protected free speech.
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WWII widow finally finds out what happened to her missing husband.
http://www.wimp.com/missinghusband/
Story on video. Pay attention to how her congressman helped in her search.
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New in 'gay' parade: U.S. troops in uniform
Command-level decision breaks down decades of limits on use of military image
In what appears to be an extraordinary reversal of military policy, members of the U.S. armed forces say they have been given permission by their commanding officers to march in a “gay pride” parade Saturday – while wearing their service-issued uniforms.
Meanwhile, WND has learned, one of the top officers who approved the decision has since entered retirement.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/07/new-in-gay-parade-u-s-troops-in-uniform/
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A Day Job Waiting for a Kill Shot a World Away
HANCOCK FIELD AIR NATIONAL GUARD BASE, N.Y. — From his computer console here in the Syracuse suburbs, Col. D. Scott Brenton remotely flies a Reaper drone that beams back hundreds of hours of live video of insurgents, his intended targets, going about their daily lives 7,000 miles away in Afghanistan. Sometimes he and his team watch the same family compound for weeks.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/us/drone-pilots-waiting-for-a-kill-shot-7000-miles-away.html?_r=1
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The article doesn't say it but, I am willing to bet the woman that started this is a military dependent.
"We wanted to turn something negative around, into something people could laugh at and poke fun at," Neace told the paper. "It was the easiest way to divert attention from something so hateful."
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I Have PTSD…So What?
I have PTSD. We all know what it is, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder. I am one of millions who are affected by it each and every day. Millions of men and women who have varying symptoms yet manage to maintain a normal lifestyle. I, along with my cohorts, have been classified as a potential powder keg just waiting on that spark to set us off into a murderous explosion of ire. This is not the case as I am just as normal as you.
http://rhinoden.rangerup.com/i-have-ptsd-so-what/
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Islamists neuter Pentagon war-fighting plans
Military analysis of radicalism now called 'totally objectionable'
Lawyers who are defending a military officer blasted by his commanders for teaching about the dangers of radical Islam are accusing the Pentagon of selling out to the politically correct religious perspective.
“In order to appease Muslims and the White House, Gen. Dempsey and the Department of Defense rushed to punish Lt. Col. Matt Dooley,” said Richard Thompson, chief counsel for the Thomas More Law Center.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/islamists-neuter-pentagon-war-fighting-plans/
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Republicans kill Veterans' Jobs bill
Why do Republicans hate veterans? Or is it just that they dislike Democrats so much that they are willing to sacrifice veterans' well-being?
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Yea, Republicans HATE veterans. Why do Liberals LOVE the word HATE? Leave it to Rachel Madcow to only present the Democrat talking points about this story and ignore the legitimate objections of the Conservative Republicans.
Here they are:
Sen. Tom Coburn (R-Okla.) said GOP concerns were about the $1 billion price tag for the program over five years. Republicans described the proposal as a political ploy of no practical value. “If, in fact, we want to help veterans get jobs, there are lots of ways to do it,” Coburn said on the floor before the vote. “We need to make sure the job training programs we have are working, and they’re not.”
Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-Ala.), the ranking member of the Senate Budget Committee who raised the procedural objection, said the action simply requires the veterans committee to come back with a bill that does not add to the deficit. In an interview, he called Democratic claims that the Veterans Job Corps would not require additional funding “a gimmick.”
“I introduced a substitute amendment because I felt the Democrats’ bill was more focused on their electoral desires than actual real-world outcomes for veterans,” Burr said. Last edited on Mon Sep 24th, 2012 01:54 am by GaCDBFan
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Also, no mention of the fact that the bill violated the Budget Control Act by adding to the deficit. This is the "technicality" the Democrats are talking about. Never mind that it violates the LAW that THEY helped pass... Since when have Democrats worried about things such as the rule of law and the Constitution and other such "technicalities."
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Don't bother satcomguy with the facts.
His mind is made up and there is nothing you can do to change it.
BTW, Sen. Coburn is correct, the job training programs/policies we now have are not working. Throwing more money at another program will only make work for a few more government employees, most of which will not be vets.
The vet preference for hiring by government agencies is a JOKE. It's easier for a female non-high school grad to get hired than a vet with some college.
Most of the training programs require a vet to support himself while in training (where does that money come from), and many of the technical skills schools can't get accredited for vet's funds reimbursement.
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I wasn't trying to change HIS mind. Just making sure that everyone who read it knew it wasn't the whole story. I doubt there would be a problem with most in this forum though.
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GaCDBFan wrote: I wasn't trying to change HIS mind. Just making sure that everyone who read it knew it wasn't the whole story. I doubt there would be a problem with most in this forum though.
I knew that (kinda) and realized what you were doing. But I have found, the hard way, that answering his posts, directly, just ends up in a round robin of his silly lib tactics.
You are correct, there is no hope of getting the blind to see. All we can do is try to get the ones that are not sure of what is happening to think about how the socialists know they are wrong, so they have to lie about it.
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