Al Dawg wrote: If your washed in the BLOOD you don't have to live under the threat of anything! Spread the Word!
I hear what your saying AD. But I believe God allows us to live under a worldly threat while we're on this planet. I'd like to think our children and grand children won't be burdened, (particularly the girls), with being stoned to death. There had to be more prayer offered up to God back in WWII than can be imagined. Imagine the world we'd be living in if that generation simply said...God will handle Hitler. We had to fight fascism, this is just another form as far as I'm concerned. I refer to it as religious fascism. They see themselves as God's very own jack booted thugs.
"[Let's] say if I was to get within one mile of Adolph Hitler with this here sniper rifle, with a clear line of sight. Pack your bags fellas', war's over! Amen!"
how safe do you feel with these wonderful peace loving, tolerant worshippers of Allah running around?
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You are absolutely correct Linus. King David in Psalms,ask God to give him cunning and knowledge about his enemies as well as teach his hands to war. It is good that we pray and trust in the Living GOD and it is the most powerful force on earth but, it will not get a terrorist with bombs strapped to them to just go away and not commit SPLODYDOPE. You see folks GOD also gave each human being freewill and these rads all have it and can do what they want with it. I would say that is especially true now that the majority of the people in the United States really do not serve GOD with all their hearts, souls and minds and have turned aside to other pursuits. Just MHO
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Don't blame me, I voted for Romney.
____________________ 1Cr 2:2 For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
1Jo 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from al
The girl who came up with the "Draw a cartoon of Mohammad day" idea is now in hiding. The FBI is changing her identity. Funny that I haven't heard a peep about her free speech rights from all the moderate muslims out there. I guess, however, the imam that called for her murder has free speech rights because evidently it's not against the law for a religious leader to urge his flock to commit murder. Sharia is alive and well in the US and because of PC BS too many people can't see it.
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I was attending a revival meeting at my church and I heard the Evangelist tell a very interesting story. He said he was at a rodeo one time and a very large belligerent man was there trying to pick a fight with him. The preachers said "I prayed to GOD for help and wisdom in how to deal with this ". He said, about five minutes later the man came at him saying something like "I am going to whop you whether you want to fight or not" and came at him. For some reason the man tripped and fell and was in the process of trying to get back to his feet. The preacher ;who used to be a bull rider, ran over and punted the guy ;as hard as he could, right in the face, knocking the guy unconscious and ending the confrontation right there. The moral of this story is that prayer is a good thing and it works but, sometimes things require action also. The Evangelist said, that if he was Stupid enough to let the man get back to his feet, he was sure GOD would not have stopped the big guy from assaulting him further.
I guess another good analogy would be, if there is a snake in my Chicken house, I am not going to pray that it does not eat the eggs, I am going to deal with the problem with the cunning,strength and tools that GOD has already provided.
For those that do not believe that Islam has a plan to takeover our nation you need to see this.
Again, if there are those that can not accept the truth and warnings concerning Islam from me, maybe you can from someone that has experienced it first hand.
Al Dawg wrote: Read The Book, Mr. Maximus. Our side wins in the end. Have fun and enjoy the ride!
What a crass statement to make.
How many have to suffer and die needlessly because of people that refuse to see and act now? We have people from BO down that refuse to understand the problem or act to prevent it.
What is even worse is that many of the supporters of islam don't believe in God at all. They are working at pitting islam against every other religion in the hopes of destroying or at least crippling all religions. They better hope that islam doesn't win, the homosexuals, athiests, etc will have to learn to give lip service to islam, or die.
"...According to the report, proponents of Shariah are "Muslim supremacists" waging "civilization jihad" along with the Islamist terrorists engaged in violent jihad, like al-Qaida..."
"...Frank Gaffney, director of the Center for Security Policy, said the Obama administration's policy is based on an incorrect assumption. The Team B report seeks to expose flaws in anti-terror programs, including the policy of not referring to al-Qaida and similar groups as "Islamist" to avoid offending Muslims, he said.
"What if it turns out that some of the people the Obama administration has been embracing are actually promoting the same totalitarian ideology and seditious agenda as al-Qaida, only they're doing it from White House Iftar dinners?" said Mr. Gaffney, referring to the daily meal eaten by Muslims to break their fast during Ramadan..."
"...Mr. Gaffney said the report concludes that U.S. government programs aimed at reaching out to Muslim groups that promote Shariah law "is not political correctness, it's submission."
The administration's failure to understand the Islamist nature of the terrorist threat is "inviting more violent jihad against this country," Mr. Gaffney said.
The report calls for a campaign against radical Islamists following the model used against communist ideology and activities during the Cold War, including infiltrating foreign-supported jihad groups by the FBI and other aggressive security measures...."
"...Republican and Democratic administrations failed to understand the ideological nature of the terrorist enemy, the report says, including its ultimate goal of reinstating a totalitarian Islamic caliphate with Shariah imposed globally..."
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Thank you folks! Excellent points all!! I'm not trying to be hard nosed about this, (well, maybe I am), but there's several rat nests out there and they need to be dealt with. I don't hate these people, (from that area of the world), if I did I wouldn't care one iota about them executing each other. Like I said this religion is insidious, a cancer, at least in it's current form. I don't feel like I should have to be understanding to a cult that tries to abuse my understanding. They will look right at you and lie about how they really feel and what they plan to do and feel content that they've done so. I've seen it over and over again. I have more respect for the kid who told me that he couldn't wait for Obama to be elected. He was trusting Obama to help Muslims around the world wipe out Israel. At least he was honest about what he wanted to do. We don't have to be understanding of this evil cult of a religion, we don't have to allow them to build a mosque, (I don't care what the law says, there are always exceptions), we need to seal off our borders and get control of our country. We certainly don't need to apologize for it. We must not allow these maniacs to set up shop and take root here. This is not like the immigrants who came to the great melting pot with hopes and dreams of making a life for themselves and their families. These idiots are coming here in the hopes that America and Israel will be destroyed.
That cartoonist lives closeby here, or did. The Dearborn police have videotapes of the arrest and should release them if that other tape is really that doctored. But they haven't . . . .hmmmm . . .
Al Dawg wrote: Read The Book, Mr. Maximus. Our side wins in the end. Have fun and enjoy the ride!
Have fun and enjoy the riots!
Have fun and enjoy the honor killings!
Have fun and enjoy the jihad experience!
Have fun and enjoy dhimmitude!
Dhimmis just wanna have fu-un . . .
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So true Linus but, our elected leaders and the un-informed, apathetic citizenry of this country just continue in their stupidity, and the Muslims keep growing in strength and belligerence.
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Don't blame me, I voted for Romney.
I'm sorry, Herb, but I cannot take Gaffney - or this report - seriously at all. Gaffney seems to believe that Obama may well be a Muslim himself; he has also put himself out there as a birther. I don't find any compelling evidence for anyone to hold to those positions.
The report seems to lump a number of different Muslim groups together and insist that all of them are somehow duty-bound to destroy us; something else that I do not believe. I was also disappointed to read that the panel did not consult a single Muslim scholar for this report.
I've downloaded the report and plan on reading it over the next few days.
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satcomguy wrote: The report seems to lump a number of different Muslim groups together and insist that all of them are somehow duty-bound to destroy us; something else that I do not believe. I was also disappointed to read that the panel did not consult a single Muslim scholar for this report.
Personally I'm not inclined to sort them out. Let them sort themselves out. When I see them on talk/news shows vehemently condemning sharia law and being more concerned about getting along with people of other faiths, including Jews, I'll know. Muslims around the world have done enough to stoke the fires of suspicion. They're the ones who need to appease the rest of the world not the other way around.
What the guy in Florida was trying to accomplish by burning the Quran is beyond me. There is absolutely nothing to be accomplished by doing that.
In fact it’s tantamount to throwing a hornet’s nest into an insane asylum and stirring up a bunch of suicidal maniacs just looking for an excuse to hurt somebody.
Does he have a right to burn Quran without having to fear retaliation from some radical Islamic nut?
Yes, he does. But does it make any sense or will it do any good, and if he’s going to do it why involve his church? Since when does that fall under a minister of the gospel’s calling? Thankfully, he reconsidered, and never went through with the burning.
HOKIE wrote: What the guy in Florida was trying to accomplish by burning the Quran is beyond me. There is absolutely nothing to be accomplished by doing that.
In fact it’s tantamount to throwing a hornet’s nest into an insane asylum and stirring up a bunch of suicidal maniacs just looking for an excuse to hurt somebody.
Does he have a right to burn Quran without having to fear retaliation from some radical Islamic nut?
Yes, he does. But does it make any sense or will it do any good, and if he’s going to do it why involve his church? Since when does that fall under a minister of the gospel’s calling? Thankfully, he reconsidered, and never went through with the burning.
I'll just go with what Charlie says Weeeeeeeeell......he can't be right ALL the time...
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HOKIE wrote: What the guy in Florida was trying to accomplish by burning the Quran is beyond me. There is absolutely nothing to be accomplished by doing that.
In fact it’s tantamount to throwing a hornet’s nest into an insane asylum and stirring up a bunch of suicidal maniacs just looking for an excuse to hurt somebody.
Does he have a right to burn Quran without having to fear retaliation from some radical Islamic nut?
Yes, he does. But does it make any sense or will it do any good, and if he’s going to do it why involve his church? Since when does that fall under a minister of the gospel’s calling? Thankfully, he reconsidered, and never went through with the burning.
I'll just go with what Charlie says
Actually Hoke, I think it does fall under the calling of minister to symbolically, stand against Pagan religions that deny the Deity of Christ and especially Islam, probably the most dangerous one of all. They are known for violently sweeping all of Christianity and every other belief system out of countries that they take control of (remember when the blew up the ancient Hindu statues in ;I think it was, Afghanistan). If they can't be the ones to take a stand, who can?
I still think the wrong here was committed by the Media for blowing this out of proportion, simply for ratings and the shock factor and they didn't care about anything else including the fact that it might get someone killed.
Churches have had book burnings for decades and yes the Quran has been burned at them, before along with other pagan religious text of all kinds . They also have burned Rock and other secular Music albums and tapes (Now that right there ought to get them in trouble, especially if they burned any CDB or Skynard) because in their opinion the music was also contrary to Christianity. This is just a symbolic stand against all things that are thought to be anti-Church and anti-JESUS.
The difference was that the International Media did not report it all over GOD's green earth , trying to draw a reaction. If the Media would have had a little scruples concerning this story, we would have never know about it but, they didn't because they are like a bunch of little old ladies at a bridge club meeting and really they are worse, because they profit from it.
As I also said, this shows everyone just how intolerant and radical Islam is. I have never heard of any Christian Sect anywhere that threatened to kill innocents over the burning of Bibles.......Just sayin
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Don't blame me, I voted for Romney.
Every body's talking about this Minister who was going to burn the Qu'ran. Ooooooh, how horrible. I agree, it was a waste of time for him to do this, aside from that I really don't care. Now let's turn our attention to the sensitivities of the Muslim world shall we....
Here are some Muslims burning Salman Rushdie in effigy because of a possible visit to Pakistan
Burning textbooks..
Even a human being, which I won't show here, you'll have to go to the link.
But every body's worried about the stupidity of one preacher burning the Qu'ran, even after he backed off. You didn't hear about the guy being lit of fire though did you? I wonder why. Perhaps it's because this behavior is all too common in areas that Muslims inhabit. Bet most of you have never seen this kid's show sponsored by Hamas..
Instead, our snooze media focuses on a misguided preacher from Florida. Go figure.
Sixth graders join in prayers during school field trip!
During a field trip last spring students from a Massachusetts school district were lectured on religion and permitted to join in a prayer service during a tour of an Islamic mosque.
loner1115 wrote: Sixth graders join in prayers during school field trip!
During a field trip last spring students from a Massachusetts school district were lectured on religion and permitted to join in a prayer service during a tour of an Islamic mosque.
Wow! What has happened to the liberal stance of separation of church and state. I guess that only applies to Christianity. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Everyone involved in this incident needs to be fired!
LinusMaximus wrote: loner1115 wrote: Sixth graders join in prayers during school field trip!
During a field trip last spring students from a Massachusetts school district were lectured on religion and permitted to join in a prayer service during a tour of an Islamic mosque.
Wow! What has happened to the liberal stance of separation of church and state. I guess that only applies to Christianity. What's good for the goose is good for the gander. Everyone involved in this incident needs to be fired!The Islamization of America is right on schedule.
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There has been a recent bombardment of accusations in the local and national media concerning those who disagree with the current regime in Washington. We are being accused of spreading hate and being racists. The fact the majority of Americans disagree with the current policies in Washington and the path of financial destruction they have us on, does not make those who disagree racist.
It has nothing to do with color.
Most recently, we are being accused of racism and "Islamaphobia" because of concern over Muslims. Last time I checked, Muslim is not a race. It is not Muslims we fear. It is the teachings of Islam that cause concern.
It is impossible for a "good Muslim" to be a good American. Our Constitution was founded on moral Christian principals and is the antithesis of Sharia law. You cannot be a Quran-believing Muslim and at the same time hold fast to the principles America was founded on for the same reason you cannot be a true Christian if you do not believe the Holy Bible is the infallible, inerrant word of God.
Separation of church and state does not exist in Islamic countries because Islam is the law. Separation of church and state in America was intended to keep government out of the church, not the other way around.
How can a religion teach and preach hatred of anyone who is a non-believer and still be referred to as "peaceful." If there are peaceful American Muslims, where are they? Where were they after 9/11? I am still waiting for a "peaceful" Muslim - any Muslim - to come forward and denounce the 9/11 atrocity.
Where were the "peaceful" Muslims after one of their radical brothers murdered 13 of our country's finest at Fort Hood? Why was there no news of our "peaceful" fellow American Muslims jointly denouncing those terrorist acts? Where were the editorials and the television interviews of "peaceful" Muslims condemning the Muslim extremist?
None came forward. Were they afraid? The horrific sight of the Twin Towers collapsing is a memory that still lingers in my mind. Also horrific were the news videos the following day of "peaceful" Muslims around the world dancing in the streets and celebrating our tragedy. Why do American Muslims show no shame?
Now they want to build a mosque near ground zero. The imam has even accused America of being partially responsible for the 9/11 attack. Not only has he failed to denounce his Islamic extremist brothers, he continues to make excuses for their actions. Even our president has given his approval of the mosque.
Christians traveling in any Muslim country have no religious rights and are in danger if they mention Christianity. Why must we forfeit our rights and give in to every Muslim demand? Americans are tired of this in-your-face attitude expressed by those who claim to be "peaceful Muslims" and it's why we are so distrustful of Islam.
Millions of peaceful legal immigrants down through the years have left their native lands and come to America in search of peace and freedom from religious persecution.
It was those same peaceful immigrants who took up arms during the American Revolution in opposition to those who would come to take away freedom and rule with oppression. Now it is the descendants of those same peaceful Americans who are being driven to the edge by the likes of those on the far left who have no agenda but to nullify our Constitution, destroy capitalism, tax us into oblivion and deny our Christian heritage and all the wonderful things that have made us a free and peaceful nation.
Before my dad died in 1974, he warned one day there would be another war in this country, but the next one would not be between North and South. It would be an uprising against an oppressive, tyrannical government.
If you truly love this country, please pay attention to what is going on in the political world. Educate yourself by listening to both sides. If you do, it will be easy for you to make intelligent decisions at the polls.
The upcoming November election may be the most pivotal in the history of this great country, and it may be our last opportunity to salvage our Christian heritage and bring back common-sense government.
God help us.
Billy Dasher is a Springfield resident and businessman.
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Yep GB, Dasher writes for a Springfield, GA newspaper and I guess they give him "free rein" because he flat tells the readers how the "cow eats the cabbage!"
I glanced at a few of his other articles and he tells it like it is in all of them.
OIB
(aka one of those "haters" who cling my Bible and my guns)
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Cherokee Bill wrote: Yep GB, Dasher writes for a Springfield, GA newspaper and I guess they give him "free rein" because he flat tells the readers how the "cow eats the cabbage!"
I glanced at a few of his other articles and he tells it like it is in all of them.
OIB
(aka one of those "haters" who cling my Bible and my guns)
Go Dasher!!!
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Saw this on another site and thought y'all might enjoy it. Not a half bad idea.
This is the best solution I have heard. surprised that some New Yorker
hasn’t thought of it. I am appalled at all my friends who are so opposed to the mosque near ground zero. To show our tolerance, we should let them build. Then right across the street, someone should put a topless bar, called “You Mecca Me Hot”. Next to that should be a gay bar, “The Turban Cowboy”. And next door to the mosque should be a pork rib restaurant, maybe “Iraq o’ Ribs”? Then the Muslims could be allowed to show their tolerance. Problem solved.
Just another thought, how about a sign in the windows of the bars and restaurant, "Allah y'all come on back now, ya hear".
____________________ Reno
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin
RENO wrote: Saw this on another site and thought y'all might enjoy it. Not a half bad idea.
This is the best solution I have heard. surprised that some New Yorker
hasn’t thought of it. I am appalled at all my friends who are so opposed to the mosque near ground zero. To show our tolerance, we should let them build. Then right across the street, someone should put a topless bar, called “You Mecca Me Hot”. Next to that should be a gay bar, “The Turban Cowboy”. And next door to the mosque should be a pork rib restaurant, maybe “Iraq o’ Ribs”? Then the Muslims could be allowed to show their tolerance. Problem solved.
Just another thought, how about a sign in the windows of the bars and restaurant, "Allah y'all come on back now, ya hear".
That's good.
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Aldebaran wrote: RENO wrote: Saw this on another site and thought y'all might enjoy it. Not a half bad idea.
This is the best solution I have heard. surprised that some New Yorker
hasn’t thought of it. I am appalled at all my friends who are so opposed to the mosque near ground zero. To show our tolerance, we should let them build. Then right across the street, someone should put a topless bar, called “You Mecca Me Hot”. Next to that should be a gay bar, “The Turban Cowboy”. And next door to the mosque should be a pork rib restaurant, maybe “Iraq o’ Ribs”? Then the Muslims could be allowed to show their tolerance. Problem solved.
Just another thought, how about a sign in the windows of the bars and restaurant, "Allah y'all come on back now, ya hear".
That's good.
That IS good. Don't forget the Synagogue, "Temple of David in yo' Face!"
Well, that's all you need to know to get an idea of what mentality makes up the UN these days. Why we are still a member of that US and Israel hating organization is beyond me.
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Well, that's all you need to know to get an idea of what mentality makes up the UN these days. Why we are still a member of that US and Israel hating organization is beyond me.
That's exactly right Aldebaran, this should not surprise anyone.The U.N.S.C. is made up of a majority of Third World He)) holes with two bit dictators who are Jealous of, and hate Western Civilization and Israel. Without the United States paying into the U.N. General Fund it would fold in 1 year's time. We should stop supporting terrorism and get out now. We don't need them at all and they couldn't survive without us.
As far as Ahmidinijad.......well what else did you expect? I don't understand why FBI/CIA agents didn't grab him as soon as he stepped off the plane. Not that it would solve anything. Islam is the source of the poison that is about to bathe the World in blood.
NEXT TIME THE PIPSQUEAK DECIDES HE WANTS TO COME TO THE U.S., MAYBE WE SHOULD SEND THESE GUYS TO WELCOME HIM
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Don't blame me, I voted for Romney.
We need to turn the U.N. into a Walmart or something. Seriously, what are we still doing in that anti-American pet rock of an organization? It's nothing but a platform for people to bash America on it's own soil.
AND THE SOLUTION FOR OUR UN PROBLEM
By
Neal Boortz
@ September 24, 2010 8:42 AM
Let's see how you would like this:
Our Secretary of State (and it sure wouldn't be Hillary Clinton) announces that the United States is going to lead a movement to form a new international organization along the lines of the United Nations. This organization, unlike the UN, will have qualifications for membership. The primary qualification will be that the government of each member country will be chosen in regularly scheduled free and open elections. Then, after this new organization is up and running, the United States will withdraw membership and financial support for the United Nations and will ask the UN to pack its stuff and get out of town.
I like it myself...
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I like it too. Especially the part about them packing up and getting out of town. I just can't fathom the reasoning why we allow this organization to continue to occupy prime realestate in New York. Let them set up shop in Sudan or Iran. Or better yet, Kenya. Then send them one of Kenya's natural born citizens to run the joint. obozo for supreme secretary general! He'd fit right in. He already hates America.
____________________ Reno
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote." -- Benjamin Franklin
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I just don't know how much more evidence we need as a nation. These guys are not kidding around. They are either going to convert us, or kill us! They remind me so much of the Nazis in the sense that either you go along with what they want or....they murder you. And what do we have in the way of leadership in this country?
Yes Linus, Jimmy Carta is an Anti-Semitic Bigot and used to be the worst President this Country ever had (notice I say used to be). Not only all that but, he claims to be a Baptist Christian but, evidentally has forgotten his Bible and History of Israel....Uhhh MR. Carter the Jews are not in the Palestinian lands. It is the Palestinians who are living inside the borders of Israel. It is the Palestinian Muslims that are killing Jewish children with out provocation. It is the Muslims who will not live in Peace with their neighbors Mr. Former President. Somebody ought to slap you upside the head. Legacy? you already have one and it's all bad.......Foget abot it !!!!!!!!
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Don't blame me, I voted for Romney.
Comments Carafano: "Everything in the doctrine … is predicated on people who the U.S. is antagonistic with doing things that are nice, cooperating. The corrupt Afghans have to cooperate, the Pakistanis have to cooperate, the Iranians have to cooperate. And the enemy gets a vote. And what we're seeing is, people are demonstrating they don't want to cooperate."
According to Grenell, the administration's apparent inability to stop Iran's nuclear program stems in part from its reluctance to use American might.
"Military action is always the last resort," Grenell tells Newsmax.
"But it actually has to be on the table. I think the Bush administration actually was able to move the U.N. in a direction that sometimes it didn't want to go, simply because they were nervous about a military action. I think that threat is a very powerful threat, and what's happened with the Obama administration is they've removed it.
"They basically want to 'hug everything out.' And at the end of the day, you have to have a credible threat."
Guess they never heard of, "Walk softly, but carry a big stick".
“To me it demonstrates the complete folly of Obama’s continued offer to negotiate with him,” Bolton tells Newsmax in an exclusive interview. “Obama says in his speech to the General Assembly that the door is still open, but then a few hours later Ahmadinejad comes through and start talking like a truther.”
Bolton believes Ahmadinejad’s attitude reflects the entire Iranian regime’s views, including those of Iranian Supreme Leader Ali Khamenei ̶ who holds the final say in Iran.
“So how you can seriously believe that you can negotiate a meaningful elimination of their nuclear weapons program with people with that kind of psychology and believe they would carry through with it, Obama can’t explain,” Bolton says.
“It’s another demonstration that his policy of dealing with Iran and North Korea is that it’s not just naïve, but it’s also dangerous.
Naive or stupid, either way it isn't going to work.
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Carter lost his marbles a long time ago. He is a sophisticated citizen of the World now, not merely an American.
"Can't we all just get along? If America and Israel weren't so mean there would be peace on earth, blah, blah, blah."
I think I'm gonna barf. Dhimmi Carter. What a joke.
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I put the above link on my facebook. I have a liberal atheist friend who I went to school with. He's of course, saying the muslims are within their rights, and I should factor in muslim vs christianity. I said, fine, I'll take christianity out of this, they are discriminating against blind people with seeing eye dogs, WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY. They are discrimating against things that are contrary to Sharia Law, which is the law of THEIR homeland, NOT AMERICA, and their Sharia Law is in contrary to ours! He's still spewing "it's their right" bologna. Um, if they(muslims)want to come to America and live amongst us in "harmony", then they should follow OUR laws. We aren't forcing them to eat pork, or drink alcohol, or whatever, but, they shouldn't discrimate against those that do. THAT'S the laws of MY COUNTRY!
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proudmomof4 wrote: I put the above link on my facebook. I have a liberal atheist friend who I went to school with. He's of course, saying the muslims are within their rights, and I should factor in muslim vs christianity. I said, fine, I'll take christianity out of this, they are discriminating against blind people with seeing eye dogs, WHICH IS AGAINST THE LAWS OF THIS COUNTRY. They are discrimating against things that are contrary to Sharia Law, which is the law of THEIR homeland, NOT AMERICA, and their Sharia Law is in contrary to ours! He's still spewing "it's their right" bologna. Um, if they(muslims)want to come to America and live amongst us in "harmony", then they should follow OUR laws. We aren't forcing them to eat pork, or drink alcohol, or whatever, but, they shouldn't discrimate against those that do. THAT'S the laws of MY COUNTRY!
Does anyone know why we have all of these somalis in this country? It is because they screwed up their country with their stupid laws. Now they want to screw up this one and the libs that brought them here are helping them.
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Thanks Proud Mom.. I posted it on my facebook too. The more we pass this around, maybe the more people will be aware and maybe.. JUST MAYBE... we can get enough angry Americans to actually make a difference.
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UNless we have people on our facebook like my friend who are taking sides with the muslims that it is their right to refuse rides. UMMM, NOT if it's in direct violation of our discrimination laws. AND, not if they won't tolerate a white Christian American male refusing a ride to someone who carries a Koran, or wears a rag on his head. My friend asked me if I was a cab driver would I refuse such a person a ride, I responded, "No". Would I like it, no, but, No, I wouldn't. I'd probably sing Jesus Loves me or something the whole time, but I wouldn't refuse them a ride
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proudmomof4 wrote: UNless we have people on our facebook like my friend who are taking sides with the muslims that it is their right to refuse rides. UMMM, NOT if it's in direct violation of our discrimination laws. AND, not if they won't tolerate a white Christian American male refusing a ride to someone who carries a Koran, or wears a rag on his head. My friend asked me if I was a cab driver would I refuse such a person a ride, I responded, "No". Would I like it, no, but, No, I wouldn't. I'd probably sing Jesus Loves me or something the whole time, but I wouldn't refuse them a ride
My ex mother in law, whom I can only describe as a "Holy Roller" used to make my life miserable. Not only were we not allowed to drink, we were not allowed to go to any restaurant that served any form of alcoholic beverage. She constantly lectured me because I cut my hair. She would leave Bible passages (taken out of context of course) around for me to find, making it clear that she considered me an abomination before the Lord because I wore jeans. I did not tolerate her attitude in MY home and I refuse to tolerate the Muslim attitude in MY home country!
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Kathi wrote: proudmomof4 wrote: UNless we have people on our facebook like my friend who are taking sides with the muslims that it is their right to refuse rides. UMMM, NOT if it's in direct violation of our discrimination laws. AND, not if they won't tolerate a white Christian American male refusing a ride to someone who carries a Koran, or wears a rag on his head. My friend asked me if I was a cab driver would I refuse such a person a ride, I responded, "No". Would I like it, no, but, No, I wouldn't. I'd probably sing Jesus Loves me or something the whole time, but I wouldn't refuse them a ride
My ex mother in law, whom I can only describe as a "Holy Roller" used to make my life miserable. Not only were we not allowed to drink, we were not allowed to go to any restaurant that served any form of alcoholic beverage. She constantly lectured me because I cut my hair. She would leave Bible passages (taken out of context of course) around for me to find, making it clear that she considered me an abomination before the Lord because I wore jeans. I did not tolerate her attitude in MY home and I refuse to tolerate the Muslim attitude in MY home country!
I whole heartedly agree! If they(muslims)chose not to eat pork, who cares..if they chose not to drink alcohol, I don't care, if they want to look stupid and wear a rag on their head, again, I don't care......BUT...when they start expecting me to conform to them, or if they expect me to let them discriminate against me(yet not let me return the discrimination favor) I CARE! They should not be allowed to come to MY country, and live by the laws of their mothership(homeland) which is in conflict with our laws. Their law allows them to stone women who dress provactively, or disagree with their husbands(I'D BE IN BIG TROUBLE ON THAT ONE). Are we gonna let 'em because it's "their religion/law" therefore protected by Freedom of Religion? I see it getting to that point.
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Sorry, but I just want these people out of here. They're a problem everywhere they go and yes I'm lumping them into one big mess. Islam IS the problem! I don't care what our leaders say, (Bush included), we are, or need to be at war with Islam! Ask a peace loving, nice guy Muslim to denounce 911, or any other terrorist attack then sit back and listen to the verbal dance they do avoiding any actual condemnation. It's pathetic! What's more pathetic is that we tolerate this garbage. We just need to be the good guy even if it means the destruction of our way of life as we know it. From the entire Muslim community I see little or no compromise, all the while the western world keeps backing up. It's time to stop and look at this religion for what it is. Insidious.
How about this folks? A jury decided that it is legal to preach Christianity on the streets of Dearborn.
Robert Muise, a senior counsel for the Thomas More Law Center, told WND that's exactly the situation in this case, since other organizations with a Christian message whose representatives simply "were there" were not subjected to any charges by police.
Those organizations, said Muise, already are complying with Islamic religious law, or Shariah, by not presenting the Gospel message of the Bible to others.
"They were, 'Let's just get along, just be present,'" Muise told WND. "They are being used. They are not a threat [to Islam]. They already are suppressed."
The issue strikes directly at the heart of what many fear is developing across the nation: Muslims given special treatment that subjects those of other faiths to second-class status
Muise said the idea of a special prohibition on saying something that could be interpreted as challenging Islam is scarily close to becoming reality.
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The more tolerance we show Islam, the more Islam is going to show us their intolerance. They see this country as the Grand Prize and they want it to be subjected to Sharia for the glory of allah.
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Gobblerblaster wrote: The more tolerance we show Islam, the more Islam is going to show us their intolerance. They see this country as the Grand Prize and they want it to be subjected to Sharia for the glory of allah.
People are starting to wake up and things are starting to turn around.
"In one instance, devoting 120 student text lines to Christian beliefs, practices, and holy writings but 248 (more than twice as many) to those of Islam; and dwelling for 27 student text lines on Crusaders' massacre of Muslims at Jerusalem in 1099 yet censoring Muslims' massacres of Christians there in 1244 and at Antioch in 1268, implying that Christian brutality and Muslim loss of life are significant but Islamic cruelty and Christian deaths are not."
Another point of contention is book authors "spending 139 student text lines on Christian beliefs, practices, and holy writings but 176 on those of Islam; claiming Islam 'brought untold wealth to thousands and a better life to millions,' while 'because of [Europeans' Christian] religious zeal … many peoples died and many civilizations were destroyed;' and contrasting 'the Muslim concern for cleanliness' with Swedes in Russia who were 'the filthiest of God's creatures.'"
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Herb wrote: Gobblerblaster wrote: The more tolerance we show Islam, the more Islam is going to show us their intolerance. They see this country as the Grand Prize and they want it to be subjected to Sharia for the glory of allah.
People are starting to wake up and things are starting to turn around.
"In one instance, devoting 120 student text lines to Christian beliefs, practices, and holy writings but 248 (more than twice as many) to those of Islam; and dwelling for 27 student text lines on Crusaders' massacre of Muslims at Jerusalem in 1099 yet censoring Muslims' massacres of Christians there in 1244 and at Antioch in 1268, implying that Christian brutality and Muslim loss of life are significant but Islamic cruelty and Christian deaths are not."
Another point of contention is book authors "spending 139 student text lines on Christian beliefs, practices, and holy writings but 176 on those of Islam; claiming Islam 'brought untold wealth to thousands and a better life to millions,' while 'because of [Europeans' Christian] religious zeal … many peoples died and many civilizations were destroyed;' and contrasting 'the Muslim concern for cleanliness' with Swedes in Russia who were 'the filthiest of God's creatures.'"
LMAO. The A stands for arse.
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Muslim Brotherhood 'declares war' on U.S.
Analyst compares leader's sermon to bin Laden's pre-9/11 warning
Five years before the 9/11 attacks, al-Qaida declared war on America, the West, Christians and Jews – and virtually no one noticed.
loner1115 wrote: Muslim Brotherhood 'declares war' on U.S.
Analyst compares leader's sermon to bin Laden's pre-9/11 warning
Five years before the 9/11 attacks, al-Qaida declared war on America, the West, Christians and Jews – and virtually no one noticed.
Many will discount this because it is being reported by WND but, people should heed the warning and take this for the truth. Remember it isn't Islamaphobia when they really are trying to kill you.
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Gobblerblaster wrote: loner1115 wrote: Muslim Brotherhood 'declares war' on U.S.
Analyst compares leader's sermon to bin Laden's pre-9/11 warning
Five years before the 9/11 attacks, al-Qaida declared war on America, the West, Christians and Jews – and virtually no one noticed.
Many will discount this because it is being reported by WND but, people should heed the warning and take this for the truth. Remember it isn't Islamaphobia when they really are trying to kill you.
I do not have islamaphobia. After reading the koran and listening to, what appers to be, the majority of muslims and their leaders, my fear is intirely reasonable.
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Herb wrote: Gobblerblaster wrote: loner1115 wrote: Muslim Brotherhood 'declares war' on U.S.
Analyst compares leader's sermon to bin Laden's pre-9/11 warning
Five years before the 9/11 attacks, al-Qaida declared war on America, the West, Christians and Jews – and virtually no one noticed.
Many will discount this because it is being reported by WND but, people should heed the warning and take this for the truth. Remember it isn't Islamaphobia when they really are trying to kill you.
I do not have islamaphobia. After reading the koran and listening to, what appers to be, the majority of muslims and their leaders, my fear is intirely reasonable.
Sure got that right. Nothing they would do would surprise me. But yet our government allows them to have training camps right here on USA soil.
The saying used to be "Better red than dead". Now it should be "Better dead and in Heaven than a muslim in their paradise(HELL).
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Terror threat to restaurants as Al Qaeda calls for attacks on government workers in D.C.
WASHINGTON - The terror group tied to the Ft. Hood killings and the Christmas Day undies airbomber urge wannabe American jihadis to open fire on crowded restaurants in the nation's capital to massacre U.S. government workers.
"America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings." Barack Obama
"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America." George W. Bush
LinusMaximus wrote: "America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings." Barack Obama
"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America." George W. Bush
Yep. Sure looks like a "religion of peace" to me. Those guns can kill you just as dead as if they were held and used by an adult. And those kids could probably pull the trigger with the indoctrination they undergo.
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loner1115 wrote: LinusMaximus wrote: "America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings." Barack Obama
"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America." George W. Bush
Yep. Sure looks like a "religion of peace" to me. Those guns can kill you just as dead as if they were held and used by an adult. And those kids could probably pull the trigger with the indoctrination they undergo.
A little det cord, some composition 4, and a dead man's switch and then it's off to school you go young man! Peaceful religion my foot!
I have nothing against the people. I don’t hate Muslims. But Islam is a totalitarian ideology. It rules every aspect of life — economics, family law, whatever. It has religious symbols, it has a God, it has a book — but it’s not a religion. It can be compared with totalitarian ideologies like Communism or fascism. There is no country where Islam is dominant where you have a real democracy, a real separation between church and state. Islam is totally contrary to our values.
By making this latter claim, Wilders shattered a corrosive modern taboo, enforced rigidly and without forgiveness by cultural relativist politicians and government bureaucrats as well as influential “savants” in media, academia, and religion.
But Wilders’ assessment not only comports with scholarly observations made (primarily) before the advent of the postmodern Western scourge of cultural relativism, it is supported by contemporary hard polling data from 2006 -2007, and a more recent follow-up reported February 25, 2009. At present, overwhelming Muslim majorities — i.e., better than two-thirds (see the weighted average calculated here) of a well-conducted survey of the world’s most significant and populous Arab and non-Arab Muslim countries — want these immoderate outcomes: “strict application” of Shari’a, Islamic law, and a global caliphate.
Specifically, the World Public Opinion.org/ University of Maryland poll (released February 25, 2009) indicated the following about our putative Muslim ally nations of Egypt and Pakistan: 81% of the Muslims of “moderate” Egypt, the largest Arab Muslim nation, desire a “strict” application of Shari’a, Islamic law; 76% of Pakistan’s Muslims — one of the most important and sizable non-Arab Muslim populations — want this outcome. Furthermore, 70% of Egyptian Muslims and 69% of Pakistani Muslims desire the re-creation of a “single Islamic state or caliphate.” Elsewhere, I have detailed the totalitarian impact of these fulfilled Islamic desires — based upon their doctrinal and historical application across space and time.
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For example, being imbued with fanaticism was the ultimate source of Muhammad’s great strength and led to his triumph as a despot.
I don’t hate Muslims. But Islam is a totalitarian ideology. It rules every aspect of life — economics, family law, whatever. It has religious symbols, it has a God, it has a book — but it’s not a religion. It can be compared with totalitarian ideologies like Communism or fascism. There is no country where Islam is dominant where you have a real democracy, a real separation between church and state. Islam is totally contrary to our values.
By making this latter claim, Wilders shattered a corrosive modern taboo, enforced rigidly and without forgiveness by cultural relativist politicians and government bureaucrats as well as influential “savants” in media, academia, and religion.
But Wilders’ assessment not only comports with scholarly observations made (primarily) before the advent of the postmodern Western scourge of cultural relativism, it is supported by contemporary hard polling data from 2006 -2007, and a more recent follow-up reported February 25, 2009. At present, overwhelming Muslim majorities — i.e., better than two-thirds (see the weighted average calculated here) of a well-conducted survey of the world’s most significant and populous Arab and non-Arab Muslim countries — want these immoderate outcomes: “strict application” of Shari’a, Islamic law, and a global caliphate.
Specifically, the World Public Opinion.org/ University of Maryland poll (released February 25, 2009) indicated the following about our putative Muslim ally nations of Egypt and Pakistan: 81% of the Muslims of “moderate” Egypt, the largest Arab Muslim nation, desire a “strict” application of Shari’a, Islamic law; 76% of Pakistan’s Muslims — one of the most important and sizable non-Arab Muslim populations — want this outcome. Furthermore, 70% of Egyptian Muslims and 69% of Pakistani Muslims desire the re-creation of a “single Islamic state or caliphate.” Elsewhere, I have detailed the totalitarian impact of these fulfilled Islamic desires — based upon their doctrinal and historical application across space and time.
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Wilders was right, and he was right to speak out! This is a very dangerous cult to my way of thinking, at least in it's current form. Now I know the Olbermann's of the world think we're all bigots here. After all, they are smarter and more understanding than the rest of us, (just ask Brian Kilmeade), and if you feel like sifting through this dung you'll see what I mean. Just go to the 1:22 mark and you can hear Olbermann rip Kilmeade for saying what pretty much everybody knows, at least those of us who don't smoke grass. This is a prime example of what I mean when it comes to the media and Muslims...
Yep, that's what you get from Liberal America when you don't dance around or completly ignore the bold, in your face facts. I applaud Mr. Kilmeade and pray that Americans would see through the smoke and mirrors of the PC , Globalist, Media Agenda (American version of Pravda). Of course anyone that still listens and takes into account anything that Olderman says is probably way beyond any shred of hope anyway. Just keep singing the Barney song and getting drunk on the Kool-aid there Keith, as you continue to watch your ratings go into the basement. My guess is that even CNN will not renew his contract when his time is up.
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Gobblerblaster wrote: Yep, that's what you get from Liberal America when you don't dance around or completly ignore the bold, in your face facts. I applaud Mr. Kilmeade and pray that Americans would see through the smoke and mirrors of the PC , Globalist, Media Agenda (American version of Pravda). Of course anyone that still listens and takes into account anything that Olderman says is probably way beyond any shred of hope anyway. Just keep singing the Barney song and getting drunk on the Kool-aid there Keith, as you continue to watch your ratings go into the basement. My guess is that even CNN will not renew his contract when his time is up. LOL..the man is seriously derranged GB! Between Olbermann and Rachael Madcow I have no idea which is worse.
Now, let's see which Muslim head honcho comes out and denounces this insanity. If some whacked out Christian fundamentalist group had done this to a mosque, we'd be hearing about it endlessly on MSNBC and CNN.
Sooo lessee here. You got France going to bat for you. My condolences! I feel compelled to bring these up here because to my way of thinking it's staggering the way the press avoids handling these things..
This brings the real muslim agenda out in the open, doesn't it?
CAIR sues to block Oklahoma sharia ban
CAIR’s real agenda revealed
“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any other faith, but to become dominant. The Qur’an should be the highest authority in America.”
Omar Ahmad, CAIR co-founder, quoted in the San Ramon Valley Herald,
July 4, 1998
Dear Herbert,
As the National Journal story reports below, the Oklahoma chapter of CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) has filed suit to block implementation of State Question 755, known as the “Save Our State” amendment.
SQ 755 prohibits Oklahoma courts from using sharia law when judging cases. The amendment was overwhelmingly approved by Oklahoma voters, garnering over 70% support.
ACT! for America played a key role in educating the voters about SQ 755, including two weeks of statewide radio advertising, 600,000 automated phone calls with a message recorded by former CIA director James Woolsey, editorials and letters to the editor, and radio interviews.
Prior to the vote CAIR’s Oklahoma director had argued SQ 755 was unnecessary because there was no chance sharia was coming to Oklahoma.
The CAIR lawsuit now confirms what CAIR leaders have said in the past—CAIR’s real agenda is the importation of sharia law to America.
Consider Omar Ahmad’s quote above. What is he actually saying? That sharia law should govern America.
Consider this 1993 quote from Ibrahim Hooper, CAIR’s current communications director, who told the Minneapolis Star-Tribune: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.”
What is Hooper saying? That sharia law should govern America.
Not surprisingly, in recent years CAIR has been quiet about this agenda, but now that agenda has been smoked out by SQ 755, a measure which is not discriminatory nor inhibits the practice of religious Islam, but protects non-Muslims and Muslims alike from the tyranny of sharia law.
STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT Muslim Group Sues Oklahoma Over Sharia Amendment
By Althea Fung
Friday, November 5, 2010 | 8:06 a.m.
A Muslim advocacy group is suing to stop a measure approved by Oklahoma voters on Tuesday that would ban judges in the state from considering Islamic law in court proceedings.
About 70 percent of voters approved State Question 755, which says “the courts shall not consider international law or Sharia Law.”
Muneer Awad, director of the Council on American-Islamic Relations's Oklahoma chapter, filed the suit in U.S. District Court to block officials from certifying the measure. Awad told the Wall Street Journal the measure violates the First Amendment right to practice religion without government intervention.
CAIR legal adviser Gadeir Abbas said SQ755 was "designed to stigmatize Muslims, to turn the Constitution of Oklahoma into a vehicle for oppressing a minority that is currently unpopular."
The "Save Our State Amendment" was proposed by Republican state Sen. Anthony Sykes, who said the amendment isn’t about persecuting Muslims but keeping the Oklahoma judiciary system from “sliding down a slippery slope.”
Former CIA Director Jim Woolsey, who worked to get the amendment passed, said on Fox and Friends this morning that it's about not allowing criminals to use religious code to circumvent the system when they're "prosecuted for beating or assaulting their wives or daughters."
“What we really need to do is make sure people can’t void the impact of criminal law by citing their religious beliefs,” he said.
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This is what I've said all along. We are at war with Islam, or I should say Islam is at war with us! Everything about this religion screams war. Why can we not see this?
This is what I've said all along. We are at war with Islam, or I should say Islam is at war with us! Everything about this religion screams war. Why can we not see this?
Well those of us that have not been brainwashed and induced by the PC Lamestream Media Kool-Aid can. The problem with that is that we are in the minority. All the evidense says that Islam is a Death Cult with the goal being world domination. I guess it is just easier to take the Prozac and keep ignoring the obvious than to face the truth.
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"You see that Muslims are living in dictatorships and under tyrants who are promoting things that are anathema to Muslims, like democracy and freedom, which we completely reject. They have no foundation in the divine text," Choudary stated..."
Religion of peace... Yeah, right.
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"You see that Muslims are living in dictatorships and under tyrants who are promoting things that are anathema to Muslims, like democracy and freedom, which we completely reject. They have no foundation in the divine text," Choudary stated..."
Religion of peace... Yeah, right.
Is the left TRYING to give our freedom away, or are they just plain stupid? I'm just trying to understand the rational here. You see a contrail and if you think for one moment that it might possibly be a missile, well then, you must be some paranoid gomer in desperate need of enlightenment. You find it almost impossible to find a sizable number of Muslim head honchos to denounce terrorism, but quite a few who admit that they can't wait to pull the rip chord on this country and you're the one who's being intolerant. Honestly, I don't know who more I'm angrier at. At least I know where I stand with the Muslims. Oh that's right, I'm not supposed to lump everyone into a single group. Only Rosie O'Donnell is allowed to do that..
I just have to wonder why it is the Rosie thinks anyone cares about her opinion on anything....Oh yeah cause she's a flippin moron; who by the way is a Lesbian. I guess she does not know that if Muslims do takeover that she and her Girly friend would be some of the first that they mercilessly murdered.
Notice my sig line, it definitely applies to her
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Gobblerblaster wrote: I just have to wonder why it is the Rosie thinks anyone cares about her opinion on anything....Oh yeah cause she's a flippin moron; who by the way is a Lesbian. I guess she does not know that if Muslims do takeover that she and her Girly friend would be some of the first that they mercilessly murdered.
They'd have her head on a pike. The minute you bring up Muslim intolerance in any way, shape, or form the left immediately starts carping about the crusades, or the Spanish Inquisition, or some whacked out guy like Phelps. Fred Phelps is not a real Christian. He says he is, but 99.9%, (my guesstimation), of the Christian churches in this country have completely rejected these nut bags. There is simply no comparison between the two. As for the other two, they aren't even relevant as far as I can see.
This is just another example of the overwhelming evidense that America still doesn't get it. This Church doesn't have a clue as to what the followers of Mohammad have planned for them. This is a prime case of the Fox in the Hen house. Even the LORD said, My people perish for the lack of knowledge.
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Gobblerblaster wrote:
This is just another example of the overwhelming evidense that America still doesn't get it. This Church doesn't have a clue as to what the followers of Mohammad have planned for them. This is a prime case of the Fox in the Hen house. Even the LORD said, My people perish for the lack of knowledge.Absolutely! And it is also a good example of liberalism which continues to "preach" tolerance and acceptance of anything and everything rather than the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
Sadly, in many cases churches have gone from sharing the Gospel with Muslims to actually participating in so-called interfaith worship with them! While scripture tells us to reach out in love to those who are lost (including our enemies), it never advocates partnering with or participating in worship with a false religion such as Islam!
You might recall that Rev. Franklin Graham (son of Billy) was dis-invited to a military prayer service for the National Day of Prayer because he made negative comments about Islam.
After the 2001 terrorist attacks on the U.S., Graham said Islam "is a very evil and wicked religion." In a later op-ed piece in The Wall Street Journal, Graham wrote that he did not believe Muslims were evil because of their faith, but "as a minister ... I believe it is my responsibility to speak out against the terrible deeds that are committed as a result of Islamic teaching."
Christians in Islamic countries continue to be persecuted for their faith. Churches are destroyed, Christians are imprisoned, and converts from Islam to Christianity are frequently put to death! But, here in the good old USA preach "tolerance" towards Islam.
Muslims are reportedly attempting to stop a church from holding worship services in West Java, Indonesia. Earlier this month, on November 7, more than 50 Muslims gathered outside a multipurpose building in Karask village where members of The King of Glory Church were gathered for a Sunday worship service. The Muslims chanted "Allah akbar" (God is great) and demanded that the meeting be put to an end because the building was not approved for worship services. The protest went on outside the church for more than an hour before the Muslims dispersed.
Members of Memphis Islamic Center pray at Heartsong Church. (United Methodist)
Last edited on Fri Nov 26th, 2010 05:05 pm by Glenn
for now,
. By the way, I agree with the article.
