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Aldebaran wrote:
Just when I thought the disease called Islam could no longer shock me I read this.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/04/27/egypts-islamists-to-grant-sex-after-death-right-for-husbands/
How do human beings get so depraved?
My friend, the answer to that fundamental question is as follows. Note the italicized statements:
Romans 1:18-32
English Standard Version (ESV)
God's Wrath on Unrighteousness
18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth.
19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them.
20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse.
21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.
22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools,
23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves,
25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature;
27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done.
29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips,
30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents,
31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless.
32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
No one nails it down for us like the inspired apostle does here.
Here is the sole explanation for what we are seeing in our world today. it was happening in Paul's time. It has increased in ours.
Note that Paul says God's wrath "is" (present tense) revealed. His full wrath is yet to come, but already He gives up some people when they refuse Him as He expects people to receive Him, as set forth exclusively in Scripture.
God makes no man sin. But when He, in righteous wrath, takes away His restraining hand, and leaves them to their depraved and corrupt hearts and inclinations, then there is nothing they will not stop at in terms of fulfilling the lusts of their hearts and minds.
We need not worry, of course, for God is still on the throne. He is the sovereign ruler of heaven and earth, and still restrains evil considerably, lest His people be consumed in it.
But He lets the reprobates go. All the while, they are digging their whole deeper, sinking further and further into a state of utter depravity. Indeed, as Paul later says, Rom. 2: 4-6,
4 Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God's kindness is meant to lead you to repentance?
5 But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God's righteous judgment will be revealed.
6 He will render to each one according to his works:
Did you catch that? These people are literally "storing up wrath" with their every form of increasing depravity. God may in mercy save some, but anyone whom He leaves to themselves like Paul speaks of has had a bad day already, even if they do not know just how bad yet.
Time will come when they will know.
Rest assured of that.
There is but one means to appease the wrath of God, whether one is a lost sinner among the Muslims, or other false religionists, or a sinner among the moral elite who nevertheless reject Jesus, who says He alone is the way, the truth and the life, apart from whom no man approaches in peace His Father, an infinitely holy and righteous God (John 14:6).
On that day, the last one, when all shall stand before Him, He shall look for the righteousness of the Son He has sent to save. If one is not clothed by grace through faith in that Righteous robe of the Savior, as his only substitute, and cleansed from his sinfulness by the blood of the Lord Christ, it will be hell... literally... to pay.
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Islamic apologists (defenders of Islam's image and teachings, both Muslim and non-Muslim) will often claim that nothing of the sort is taught by Islam. The claim that Islam is "a religion of peace and tolerance" was an easy sell to the civilized world when the 9-11 attacks happened, because your average American is not a serious student of "religion". Even many Christians assumed Islam was peaceful and tolerant, even though they knew it to be contrary to Christianity and considered it a false religion.
But that basic lie of Islam's peaceful and tolerant co-existence with other faiths, or compatibility with them, is not so easy to sell now, given the vast amount of exposure by people like Robert Spencer, Serge Trifkovic, Wahlid Shoebat, and a host of other serious investigators, scholars, theologians, historians, etc., in the past 11 years.
Yet some will say, "surely authoritative and official Islamic teaching does not condone this morbid, monstrous, obviously demonic practice of necrophilia?"
Ahhhh, there's the question indeed.
The answer is that, yes, official Islamic teaching references this mind-blowingly perverse practice. Muhammad himself did it, and one of the passages in the Hadith (an official Islamic source second only to the Qur'an in authority for Muslims) records it.
See the following article:
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/05/01/islamic-%E2%80%98death-sex%E2%80%99-in-context/
Oh, and don't forget that according to Allah himself (speaking through Muhammad, of course) Muhammad is the most "beautiful pattern of conduct" and "example" for mankind to follow! (Qur'an 33:21), as well as the "exalted standard of character" (Qur'an 68:4).
Necrophilia.
A horrific evil if ever I've heard of one.
But having watched modern-day videos of these monsters beheading their victims, just as the Qur'an and the examples of Muhammad as recorded in the Hadith teach them to do, I am not surprised that this is also among the horrors of an ideology that can only have its source in the most depraved of human hearts, and is doubtless also inspired by demonic spirits.
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MarkusLeoninus wrote:
Islamic apologists (defenders of Islam's image and teachings, both Muslim and non-Muslim) will often claim that nothing of the sort is taught by Islam. The claim that Islam is "a religion of peace and tolerance" was an easy sell to the civilized world when the 9-11 attacks happened, because your average American is not a serious student of "religion". Even many Christians assumed Islam was peaceful and tolerant, even though they knew it to be contrary to Christianity and considered it a false religion.
But that basic lie of Islam's peaceful and tolerant co-existence with other faiths, or compatibility with them, is not so easy to sell now, given the vast amount of exposure by people like Robert Spencer, Serge Trifkovic, Wahlid Shoebat, and a host of other serious investigators, scholars, theologians, historians, etc., in the past 11 years.
Yet some will say, "surely authoritative and official Islamic teaching does not condone this morbid, monstrous, obviously demonic practice of necrophilia?"
Ahhhh, there's the question indeed.
The answer is that, yes, official Islamic teaching references this mind-blowingly perverse practice. Muhammad himself did it, and one of the passages in the Hadith (an official Islamic source second only to the Qur'an in authority for Muslims) records it.
See the following article:
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/05/01/islamic-%E2%80%98death-sex%E2%80%99-in-context/
Oh, and don't forget that according to Allah himself (speaking through Muhammad, of course) Muhammad is the most "beautiful pattern of conduct" and "example" for mankind to follow! (Qur'an 33:21), as well as the "exalted standard of character" (Qur'an 68:4).
Necrophilia.
A horrific evil if ever I've heard of one.
But having watched modern-day videos of these monsters beheading their victims, just as the Qur'an and the examples of Muhammad as recorded in the Hadith teach them to do, I am not surprised that this is also among the horrors of an ideology that can only have its source in the most depraved of human hearts, and is doubtless also inspired by demonic spirits.
Well put. Good post Markus. People that believe that Islam can be reasoned with are just willfully ignorant. This is a religion void of any morsel of human decensy.
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ISLAM IN AMERICA
Invasion of the body snatchers
Diana West is horrified by military move to end education about nature of jihadism
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers/
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loner1115 wrote: ISLAM IN AMERICA
Invasion of the body snatchers
Diana West is horrified by military move to end education about nature of jihadism
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers/
There are 2 basic rules that every military person should know.
Know yourself. Know your enemy.
Without those there is no way to defeat the enemy.
By refusing to recognize that the enemy is islam, and learn everything we can about it, our military is setting itself up for defeat.
PC is gonna get a LOT more people killed.
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Herb wrote:
loner1115 wrote: ISLAM IN AMERICA
Invasion of the body snatchers
Diana West is horrified by military move to end education about nature of jihadism
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/invasion-of-the-body-snatchers/
There are 2 basic rules that every military person should know.
Know yourself. Know your enemy.
Without those there is no way to defeat the enemy.
By refusing to recognize that the enemy is islam, and learn everything we can about it, our military is setting itself up for defeat.
PC is gonna get a LOT more people killed.
What we see here is a phase of Islamic strategy in action, and its effects on the dupes that fall for it, referred to by writer Martel Sobieskey as "a 'mental block' that causes us to deny that we are fighting a religion....
It comes from our 'knee jerk' compulsion to blindly believe that all prophets are extreme pacifists like Jesus. This blindness plagues the highest levels of our leadership, intelligence and academic communities. It is a national security disaster making it nearly impossible to protect ourselves. The killers are shouting Allah Akbar worldwide and carrying the Koran, yet we Americans refuse to identify Islam as the enemy....
Does not such servile behavior prove that we have lost the ideological war, mental war, psychological war, war of ideas, war of words, and the propaganda war? Please heed my prediction: Every time someone calls Islam the religion of Peace, America is one step closer to defeat and Islam one step closer to victory in this clash of religions....
What a crying shame that our leaders and experts have become so intellectually dishonest and weak minded. Today’s Muslims, like Muslims of all time, emulate Mohammed not Jesus.
The problem is MOHAMMED WAS NOT A PACIFIST....
To know and understand ones enemy and to clearly identify the enemy is the primary dictum of warfare. Our leaders and experts have failed in their duty to identify the enemy. They keep calling the enemy “terrorism”. Terrorism is not the enemy. The enemy is Islam. Islam uses terrorism (guerilla warfare) as a method (tactic) to attack us. The enemy is the “entity” implementing the method of terrorism. For example, if someone is throwing rotten eggs at you, it is not the “rotten eggs” but rather the “person” throwing them who is the enemy.
It is an outrage, that the majority of our leaders and experts think like overly genteel and sissified school boys who are too spineless if not politically cowardly (P.C.) to call anyone an enemy -- no matter how blatantly obvious it is....
Permit me to give the following two criteria for determining an expert’s competence: First: Anyone who calls the enemy terrorism rather than the religion of Islam is incompetent and should be fired from his job. Second: Anyone who calls Islam a Religion of peace is incompetent or an outright enemy propagandist or badly informed regarding Islamic religious conditioning.
Why have our leaders and experts become so blind? They are afflicted with the Oslo Syndrome meaning they are pathologically unable to evaluate the crimes committed by Islam to the extent they are going to get us all killed....
Please mark my words, calling Islam a religion of peace is patently dishonest and the worst ideological mistake in American history...."
Those are just a few words of warning that are contained in the article "At War with Islam", by this author.
His message is plain and simple enough. We Must Understand That We Are At War Not Simply With Terrorists, But With The Ideology of Islam Itself
http://islamreview.com/articles/AtWarWithIslam.shtml
From the same website ( http://islamreview.com/ ) are the following articles which tell us exactly what is going on. Like the above article they reveal precisely the very strategy that has been highlighted here this morning in these posts from Loner and Herb.
These articles are the more striking when we consider that they are written by former Muslims. These men know firsthand what the actual teaching of Islam's sources sets forth in the Qur'an and the Hadith. They understand what Muhammad (the founder of this so-called "religion of peace and tolerance") both taught and practiced himself.
Here are links to the articles mentioned, which expose the dangers of the very mistake made by our leaders every time they deny the truth, and every time the liberal and leftist apologists for Islam attempt to silence the truth.
These articles point out numerous ways that Islamic strategists are using to infiltrate and ultimately overthrow our nation, to include the above example.
Liberals and leftist radicals in this country, clearly from the halls of power in Washington right down to the dupes in the street, are the the enemy within. They aid and abet our foes from without, enabling them to infiltrate and tear down our defenses.
Liberalism is suicidal. The way it coddles the serious and hardcore followers of Muhammad is proof positive of this basic fact.
The only thing we can do is to be as fully educated about Islam as possible, and not shrink from telling people within our circles and spheres of influence the unadulterated truth about what we are dealing with.
Plans and Strategies of the Islamic Faithful and How Islam Could Overtake America if We Fail to Take Heed to its Advances:
http://islamreview.com/articles/americasvalues.shtml
http://islamreview.com/articles/20year20step.shtml
http://islamreview.com/articles/americafall.shtml
http://www.islamreview.com/articles/islamicstrategy.shtml
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The big problem is that people don't want a "Holy War".
We are not in a "Holy War" with islam, but islam is in a "Holy War" with the rest of the world.
Until our leaders recognize this fact, we will never make any real progress in stopping it.
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Herb wrote:
The big problem is that people don't want a "Holy War".
We are not in a "Holy War" with islam, but islam is in a "Holy War" with the rest of the world.
Until our leaders recognize this fact, we will never make any real progress in stopping it.
There are several important things to note on this, Herb.
Liberals, multiculturalists, moral relativists, etc., don't want a "holy war" with Islam, but they've got one despite their denials. These incredibly foolish dreamers and utopians for a Leftist "progressive" paradise were defeated before Islam came against them. They were never armed and ready for Islam's propoganda phase of warfare against them.
Now, some know deep down that if Islam's Sharia law were enacted they'd be in very big trouble. But they actually think they can coddle the "moderate" Muslims, and encourage them to "reform" their bellicose brethren who are terrorists. The liberals think they can handle things, and keep "extremism" from overtaking them and theirs.
But others are actually quite ignorant of what real, true-blue Islam is all about. Like everyone else they've been told that Islam is one of "the world's great monotheistic religions". And they fully assume that all religions are peaceful and benign.
This is at the root of a host of other ideologically fallacious notions the liberal relativists maintain. They fail to realize that Islam is a full-fledged ideological system that is totalitarian in nature. It demands sole allegiance unto itself in all spheres, political, social, religious... the whole nine yards. And Islam as taught in the Qur'an is manifestly intolerant of all other systems.
Relativists are so religiously illiterate that they imagine, they assume, they take it for granted, that all religions (to include Islam) all worship the same generic "God", that Islam is one of "many different paths to God". They figure that the islamic distinctives are basically harmless peculiarities.
They imagine that every religion has its version of "The Golden Rule", such as Christ teaches and such as is a chief doctrine in the Christian faith; namely
12 “So whatever you wish that others would do to you, do also to them, for this is the Law and the Prophets. ( Matthew 7:12; English Standard Version [ESV] )
Such ignorance is appalling. Truth be told, when America got a major wake up call in Nov. 4, 1979, when hostages were taken at the U.S. Embassy in Tehran (and there have been numerous Islamic hits against America and American interests long prior, as you know); I say, when that happened it was the duty of every leader in this nation to actually study the ideological basis for Islamic terrorism.
That basis is not far to seek at all. It is written in the Qur'an, and in the Hadith! The Muslims are doing what they are told to do in these sources which for them are authoritative. It has been going on since the 7th century. History screams at our leaders about Islamic totalitarianism, and there is no excuse for ignorance, especially on the part of our leaders!
And what a huge number of alarms have been sounded since 1979 against America and American interests abroad.
Yet these liberal fools in power don't get it!? The multiculturalists and the relativists of all stripes don't get it!?
Pardon me that I get stirred even as I write this. Believe me, I am actually using restraint.
But here is another side to these things, Herb. I submit that it lies at the very heart, the root, of this whole matter.
We have to ask how liberalism could ever take hold of people's minds and hearts in the first place, and lead (among so many other heinous and monstrous things) to the embrace of such notions as those I alluded to. Where does relativism, as opposed to Biblical absolutes, take its rise?
How is it that these folks will coddle an ideology that actually means to kill even them if it cannot bring them into submission at the end of the day, despite their embraces of it at present, and yet many of the same people will reject Christianity?
What accounts for this state of affairs?
The truth is that these people have been at war against the true and the living God since they left their mother's wombs. They've never been reconciled to God in Christ, and by the regenerating and sanctifying power of the Holy Spirit, according to Holy Scripture. And this is, at bottom, why they are not at war with God's enemies or even their own sworn enemy, in this case Islam itself.
Indeed, the Bible clearly teaches that after the fall of our original parents in Eden, we all come into the world lost and undone, and against God, from the inner to the outermost parts of our being. Apart from God's saving and sanctifying grace, sin ruins the minds, the hearts, and the wills of men. Were it not for God's mercy and grace in Christ, and the power of the Holy Spirit to transform hearts and minds and clear things up between us, God would have every right to kill us all. He owes us nothing. Salvation is by pure grace. And for those of us who are saved, we know to whom we owe the thanks and the praise. The Father planned it. The Son secured it with His blood. The Spirit applies it by His power.
But those who never become recipients of saving grace, who refuse God's love, mercy and grace in Christ... these people cannot think straight, no matter how great their academic achievements may be. Their hearts are corrupted, and they cannot love God. They cannot deny themselves, and take up the cross to follow Christ, for they are wholly motivated by self interests. Nevermind that that they are their own worst enemies, and that living according to the flesh brings death and a state of eternal (and fully conscious) damnation for them when they leave this world.
These fools cannot think straight, and lie to themselves.
How is it that some of the greatest intellectuals of all time are atheists or agnostics, or followers of all kinds of anti-Christian philosophy? How is it, for instance, that a number of "scientists" (though thankfully not all of them) are evolutionists, followers of Charles Darwin instead of followers of Christ? How is it that some of the most accomplished intellectuals from Harvard or MIT or Yale are such radical Left-Wing idealogues, who virtually spit fire and foam at the mouth should Christianity be proposed to them?
The Bible answers that question very clearly, especially in passages like Romans 1:18-32. "Professing themselves to be wise, they have become fools", says the inspired apostle, among other pointers in that passage.
They have great intellects, but they use their brains as weapons against almighty God.
They reject God, who is the one actual omniscient being in the whole universe; a God of infinite knowledge, wisdom, and understanding; a being in possession of all reason and rationality. God is the actual source of all these things, but because they reject Him, they cannot think straight. This would require them to also love the truth, which means loving God who is the source of truth.
But God is a holy God as well. He has but one way of reconciling unholy sinners to Himself, and that is through the Person and Work of His precious and beloved Son, the Lord Jesus Christ. See John 14:6, but even the whole book of John, and the whole book of Romans, especially the first 8 chapters, which constitutes the most systematic arrangement of salvific Christian doctrine in the whole of the Bible.
The ideologues don't care for a God of holiness. And they don't want to accept God's one way, they are too enamored of their own wicked ways.
And that is the main reason why the liberal and leftist ideologues in our country hate and reject God and His Christ, and reject Christianity, while embracing these savages who follow the preeminent savage of them all, Muhammad... who is no "prophet" or "apostle", as claimed, but a 7th century warlord who was driven by demonic and carnal lusts, the brutality of which rivals those manifested by despots like Hitler and Stalin.
One reason, then, that the liberals and leftists in this country refuse to acknowledge the truth about Islam is that they have rejected the God of the Bible, the only true God.
People who do this... it should not surprise us that they are such fools in the face of the very clear and present danger of Islamic totalitarianism.
I could go on, but will close for now in this post.
Only the truth sets men free, provided also they embrace the truth and love it, and love the God from whom the truth comes.
We who have embraced the truth, let us never deny it.
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and on and on and on.
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LinusMaximus wrote:
Isn't this cute! I mean you just gotta' love it when the media cherry picks stories about how evil our troops are, and how insensitive America is. We need to leave that stink hole! If they hit us again, nuke em'!
You know, if you or I were to go to that man's country of origin, and ran into him on the street, we'd be inclined to assume the best (but for the print on that shirt), based on that big smile, and think, "Well, there's a fellow who's happy to see an American tourist. Perhaps he can tell me where to get the best in his country's good food while I'm here."
But for that shirt....
Big smile indeed. Looks warm, doesn't it? And without that particular shirt on, that smile would perhaps be a bit disarming.
But the shirt speaks volumes, does it not?
It's an index to the fact that the smile is the demonic grin of a savage, proud of the warlord and the pioneering and founding Islamic terrorist that he worships, Mohammad, who wrote the book and set the standard which forms the ideological basis of what we saw on September 11, 2001.
He's sporting that evil grin because he is a black-hearted soul full of hate, driven by the same depraved nature and evil spirit that informed and directed his "prophet", who derives pleasure in knowing that his "religion" authorizes deeds such as led to the deaths of over 3000 unarmed non-combatants on American soil within the space of a few hours.
We need to find a God-fearing, constitutionally-inclined war-time General for President. Someone who has experience in the fields of battle and has led troops to victory in no-nonsense engagements against enemies not a few, and that made those heathens know beyond the shadow of all doubt why they fear the night!
We need folk in Washington who don't hinder or hamper our military people, and who will allow them... yea, order them... to do what no one can do better; namely, engage and defeat the enemy... quickly, and with all due force necessary.
I like the idea of a handful of special forces units surgically removing the terrorists, instead of wasting time and military resources and losing more of our people in the field with conventional warfare against a non-conventional enemy who doesn't play by rules, the Geneva conventions, or any other form of acceptable human conduct.
We need to get rid of self-serving, limp-wristed enemies within, the radical ideologues that despise their own country, but somehow manage to get in power in Washington; the offspring of radical late-60's dishrags who smoked too much dope and ate too much acid, whose brains are mush and whose hearts are perverse; who don't know squat about how to deal with our enemies, neither ideologically nor militarily, because they are blinded by their political correctness, and all the insane strains of their innately self-defeating and essentially God-and-country-despising philosophies. We need to get rid of these people who coddle the enemy within our borders and wait till an incident like 9-11 happens before they do anything at all, and only then sending our guys to war but not allowing them to win!
Again, I like the idea of a handful of special forces units surgically removing the terrorists, instead of wasting time and military resources and losing more of our people in the field with conventional warfare against a non-conventional enemy who doesn't play by rules, the Geneva conventions, or any other form of acceptable human conduct.
But drop a nuke indeed, if that's what it takes.
Kill them all.
And let God sort what's left of them out.Last edited on Thu May 17th, 2012 09:23 pm by MarkusLeoninus
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Look at the guys eyes, to me at least they say that the smile is totally false, they look cold and empty.
The latest that I saw from the "religion of peace" is them saying that Jerusalem never belonged to the Jews, it always belonged to Islam or Christians. Oh really?
The Israelites entered Canaan and took it over between 1406 BC and 1375 BC, and they had possession of the land till Jerusalem fell in 586 BC. David had captured Jerusalem and made it Israel's capital around 1003 BC.
Christianity came from Judaism and is around 2,000 years old, Islam has only been around since about 610 AD. Dunno maybe Muhammad owned a time machine and went back in time......
Here's the article
PMW Bulletin: Mahmoud Abbas: Jerusalem only has Islamic and Christian history
[Dr. Aaron Lerner - IMRA: If Israeli officials said similar things American
officials would be issuing statements in the same news cycle.]
PMW Bulletin
May 10, 2012
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Mahmoud Abbas: Jerusalem only has Islamic and Christian history, Israel's "Judaization" is stealing Jerusalem's "cultural, human, and Islamic-Christian religious history"
Quote:
"I say to the leaders of our Arab nation and to its peoples: Jerusalem and
its environs are a trust that Allah entrusted to us. Saving it [Jerusalem] from the settlement monster and the danger of Judaization and [land] confiscation is a personal [Islamic] commandment [Arabic: fard ayn] incumbent on all of us. Therefore, I call all of you to serious and urgent action to save [Jerusalem] and to make available all possibilities in order to strengthen our resolve and to maintain its historical, cultural and religious character."
[Al-Jazeera TV, March 27, 2010]
read more here: http://www.imra.org.il/story.php3?id=56750
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Donna Summer -- the Queen of Disco -- died this morning after a battle with cancer ... TMZ has learned.
Donna died from lung cancer. Several sources are telling us Donna believed she contracted it by inhaling toxic particles after the 9/11 attack in New York City.
So another 9-11 victim of Islamopigs. I wasn't a big fan of disco although I did like a lot of her songs. RIP, Donna.
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One of the "Islam Threads" is gonna die. I'll give you folks a few days to work out which one. 
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If the other Islamist thread is "They Have Islamist Fanatics, We Have Secularist Fanatics", can it be merged into Odds and Ends?
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I'll just leave 'em up. Mooslims. Bleach!
Never know when Broose will do a cleaning. When he cleans, he scrubs!!
I gotta get rid of some worn out stuff wandering around the bottom ......tomorrow!
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vicki530 wrote: HOKIE wrote: I'll just leave 'em up. Mooslims. Bleach!
Never know when Broose will do a cleaning. When he cleans, he scrubs!!
I gotta get rid of some worn out stuff wandering around the bottom ......tomorrow!
May as well let the Recipe Nook go. There's been plenty of time to copy recipes if people wanted them. You won't hurt my feelings in the least  .
Not much on cooking are we Vickie?
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Just how stupid and ridiculous can they get?
Happy Meal toy yanked for 'insulting Muhammad'
McDonald's responds to 'savage attacks on the noble prophet'
A Happy Meal toy that made patrons of McDonald’s restaurants in Saudi Arabia unhappy because it purportedly insults Islam’s prophet Muhammad has been removed from distribution in the Muslim desert kingdom.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/happy-meal-toy-yanked-for-insulting-muhammad/
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Judge shuts down mega-mosque construction
Court ruling says county avoided legal building-permit process
Work on a mega-mosque already well along in the construction process in Murfreesboro, Tenn., has been shut down – the existing building’s future uncertain – by a court’s ruling the county avoided the legal process required for granting building permission for the project.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/05/judge-shuts-down-mega-mosque-construction/
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Update on previous post.
Tennessee mosque work continues after judge voids building permit
Updated at 7:30 p.m. ET: Construction work continued on a Murfreesboro, Tenn., mosque Wednesday despite a judge’s ruling a day earlier voiding building permits for the controversial project.
Chancellor Robert Corlew III of the 16th District Chancery Court ruled that construction must cease because not enough notice was given about a May 24, 2010, public meeting in which Rutherford County planning commissioners approved the site plan for the Islamic Center of Murfreesboro.
"This is Sharia law," Joe Brandon, plaintiffs’ attorney, said of construction continuing without a valid permit. "They’re thumbing their nose at the state of Tennessee."
http://usnews.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/30/11958330-tennessee-mosque-work-continues-after-judge-voids-building-permit?lite
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I posted this in the soapbox but since it will be going away in a few days, I thought I would post it here too.
I did debate about posting this in the "from the gov to help thread", because it shows the government bias.
It is in response to a troll's post.
See what I mean???
It refuses to accept facts and resorts to changing the subject and name calling.
BTW, how is this for the anti Christian attitude in this country?
It happened in an American city: Hundreds of angry Muslim children and adults rioted against Christians, throwing chunks of concrete and eggs at their heads, spraying them with urine and cursing at them – while police stood by and threatened the Christian victims with “disorderly conduct.”
Considering that Christians were threatened with arrest while at a peaceful protest gathering, can anyone imagine what would happen if Christians were to start throwing things at muslims?
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Herb,
Just another sign of the times.
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IDKY wrote: Herb,
Just another sign of the times.
So, what do you reccommend, throw up our hands in disgust and not even try to right the wrongs?
Sorry, I can't go there.
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Herb wrote: IDKY wrote: Herb,
Just another sign of the times.
So, what do you reccommend, throw up our hands in disgust and not even try to right the wrongs?
Sorry, I can't go there.
No. I would suggest folding our hands and getting down on our knees and begging God to forgive us for what we have allowed this country to become.
We are a Christian nation that has allowed satanic religions to over run us. We have perverts, God haters and men that worship satan in DC leading this nation. Get rid of them, turn to God as a nation and you will see a change for the better. Until that happens, you will continue to witness the end of what was once a nation that God blessed and used for all mankind.
Pretty simple stuff if ya ask me. The hard part is getting those who claim to be saved Christians to serve God and do as he commands.
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IDKY wrote: Herb wrote: IDKY wrote: Herb,
Just another sign of the times.
So, what do you reccommend, throw up our hands in disgust and not even try to right the wrongs?
Sorry, I can't go there.
No. I would suggest folding our hands and getting down on our knees and begging God to forgive us for what we have allowed this country to become.
We are a Christian nation that has allowed satanic religions to over run us. We have perverts, God haters and men that worship satan in DC leading this nation. Get rid of them, turn to God as a nation and you will see a change for the better. Until that happens, you will continue to witness the end of what was once a nation that God blessed and used for all mankind.
Pretty simple stuff if ya ask me. The hard part is getting those who claim to be saved Christians to serve God and do as he commands.
God helps those that help themselves.
Any one with a brain and an ounce of self responsibility already knows what needs to be done. Get rid of the evil ones. It doesn't take prayer to figure it out. And we can't just leave it in God's hands.
Although it is kinda hard to do when the evil deadbeats outnumber the responsible ones.
First thing to do is VOTE for the one that comes the closest to upholding the constitution. That doesn't include demonizing people like Ron Paul in favor of someone that is half the person he is.
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Been reading a lot about that mosque lately. Seems this monstrosity that is costing millions of dollars to build has only 45 paying members. So where is all the money coming from? Saudi Arabia?
Even if I believed that Islam is a religion and not a political ideology, which I don't, I fail to see how a few families can possibly use a building so vast. This is nothing less than a mosque of conquest to commemorate the 9-11 attack on the US. It should not be allowed to be built.
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Herb wrote: IDKY wrote: Herb wrote: IDKY wrote: Herb,
Just another sign of the times.
So, what do you reccommend, throw up our hands in disgust and not even try to right the wrongs?
Sorry, I can't go there.
No. I would suggest folding our hands and getting down on our knees and begging God to forgive us for what we have allowed this country to become.
We are a Christian nation that has allowed satanic religions to over run us. We have perverts, God haters and men that worship satan in DC leading this nation. Get rid of them, turn to God as a nation and you will see a change for the better. Until that happens, you will continue to witness the end of what was once a nation that God blessed and used for all mankind.
Pretty simple stuff if ya ask me. The hard part is getting those who claim to be saved Christians to serve God and do as he commands.
God helps those that help themselves.
God helps them that serve him. We will be hated for our love and service to Christ.
Any one with a brain and an ounce of self responsibility already knows what needs to be done. Get rid of the evil ones. It doesn't take prayer to figure it out. And we can't just leave it in God's hands.
You get rid of evil leaders by leading lost voters to salvation. They in turn will then vote against evil leaders. Much prayer is needed. God will give us strength to continue to witness when those around us continue to put us down for serving him and following his will in our lives. Although it is kinda hard to do when the evil deadbeats outnumber the responsible ones.
That's why we continue to witness to the lost and grow the army of God.
First thing to do is VOTE for the one that comes the closest to upholding the constitution. That doesn't include demonizing people like Ron Paul in favor of someone that is half the person he is.
We don't even have a lessor of 2 evils this time around. God is still in control. If you knew just half as much as you claim to know and understand about the bible, you'd see what days we are living in.
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Mustng959 wrote: This is what's been happening a stone's throw from my Mom's house in Murfreesboro. I participated in a protest march a few years ago before construction started but we were met by pro religious freedom groups supporting the Mosque that:
1)weren't from around here (professional protesters bussed in)
2)cussed us like dogs (pro religious groups ... remember)
3)mocked us for our Christian beliefs, the Bible, our service to our country (many of us were veterans or family of vets)
My 73 year old mother and 75 year old dad wish to sell their house and get away from there but can't get an offer on their place so they can move to a condo in their twilight years (all of their neighbor's houses are for sale also).
What's interesting as the author of the article notes, he was all for the mosque and the exercising of religious freedom until he saw the light of what was really happening.
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atlas_shrugs/2012/06/exclusive-.html
I believe that is me in the lowere left of the picture with an orange shirt on, can't see my face... just my arm and a hand on my hip.
I just sent you a PM on how to break up protesters without saying a word.
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IDKY wrote: Herb wrote: IDKY wrote: Herb wrote: IDKY wrote: Herb,
Just another sign of the times.
So, what do you reccommend, throw up our hands in disgust and not even try to right the wrongs?
Sorry, I can't go there.
No. I would suggest folding our hands and getting down on our knees and begging God to forgive us for what we have allowed this country to become.
We are a Christian nation that has allowed satanic religions to over run us. We have perverts, God haters and men that worship satan in DC leading this nation. Get rid of them, turn to God as a nation and you will see a change for the better. Until that happens, you will continue to witness the end of what was once a nation that God blessed and used for all mankind.
Pretty simple stuff if ya ask me. The hard part is getting those who claim to be saved Christians to serve God and do as he commands.
God helps those that help themselves.
God helps them that serve him. We will be hated for our love and service to Christ.
Any one with a brain and an ounce of self responsibility already knows what needs to be done. Get rid of the evil ones. It doesn't take prayer to figure it out. And we can't just leave it in God's hands.
You get rid of evil leaders by leading lost voters to salvation. They in turn will then vote against evil leaders. Much prayer is needed. God will give us strength to continue to witness when those around us continue to put us down for serving him and following his will in our lives. Although it is kinda hard to do when the evil deadbeats outnumber the responsible ones.
That's why we continue to witness to the lost and grow the army of God.
First thing to do is VOTE for the one that comes the closest to upholding the constitution. That doesn't include demonizing people like Ron Paul in favor of someone that is half the person he is.
We don't even have a lessor of 2 evils this time around. God is still in control. If you knew just half as much as you claim to know and understand about the bible, you'd see what days we are living in.
I realize that I am only 62 years old, HOWEVER, I have been hearing that we are living in the end times since I can remember.
Witness for God is NOT ENOUGH. Saying that God is in control is not enough. We have to do a better job of supporting a real constitutionalist candidate. Unlike what we have now.
As for lessor of 2 evils, while there is not a massive difference between the 2 viable candidates, there is a real difference, and it isn't hard to see which is the better candidate.
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I was sitting at a long stoplight yesterday, minding my own business, patiently waiting for it to turn green even though there was no on-coming traffic.
A carload of bearded, young, loud Muslims, shouting anti-American slogans, with a half-burned American Flag duct-taped on the trunk of their car and a "Remember 9-11" slogan spray painted on the side, was stopped next to me.
Suddenly they yelled, "Aqbar Allah! Praise allah!" and took off before the light changed.
Out of nowhere an 18-wheeler came speeding through the intersection and ran directly over their car, crushing it completely and killing everyone in it.
For several minutes I sat in my car thinking to myself, "Man...that could have been me!"
So today, bright and early, I went out and got a job as a truck driver.
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Here is another example of why this country is in so much trouble. John McCain, one of our many moronic RINOs doesn't have the courage to stand up to the dems. How can someone who showed so much courage in Vietnam be such a wimp when facing democrats. We can't vet black democrat presidential candidates and we can't vet muslim Arabs. I'm sick of republican wimps.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/robert-spencer/huma-abedin-and-the-muslim-brotherhood-bachmann-vs-mccain/
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I hated it when the RINO McCain got the nomination. I had to back into the voting booth.
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Herb wrote: I was sitting at a long stoplight yesterday, minding my own business, patiently waiting for it to turn green even though there was no on-coming traffic.
A carload of bearded, young, loud Muslims, shouting anti-American slogans, with a half-burned American Flag duct-taped on the trunk of their car and a "Remember 9-11" slogan spray painted on the side, was stopped next to me.
Suddenly they yelled, "Aqbar Allah! Praise allah!" and took off before the light changed.
Out of nowhere an 18-wheeler came speeding through the intersection and ran directly over their car, crushing it completely and killing everyone in it.
For several minutes I sat in my car thinking to myself, "Man...that could have been me!"
So today, bright and early, I went out and got a job as a truck driver.
Herb, you and your punchlines! I didn't see it coming and I laughed myself silly. Last edited on Fri Jul 20th, 2012 02:14 am by vicki530
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Aldebaran wrote: Here is another example of why this country is in so much trouble. John McCain, one of our many moronic RINOs doesn't have the courage to stand up to the dems. How can someone who showed so much courage in Vietnam be such a wimp when facing democrats. We can't vet black democrat presidential candidates and we can't vet muslim Arabs. I'm sick of republican wimps.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/robert-spencer/huma-abedin-and-the-muslim-brotherhood-bachmann-vs-mccain/
Aldebaran, I have wondered whether JMcC is trying to earn his way into heaven. I'm serious, so please bear with me. Mt 5:9 says "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children ofGod." A peacemaker seeks to smooth out differences between opposing groups by compromise and composing a plan that leaves each party fairly happy and feeling there are rewards in it for them if they do a little give and take.. Should he have taken 2 Cor. 5:20 out of context, he might even consider himself to be an 'ambassador for Christ' on diplomatic missions to promote peaceful outcomes between aggrieved parties. Sounds nutty, but there are reasonably sane people out there who actually believe that's their role in life and it will help them earn a spot in heaven someday,
OR, that could easily be the most ridiculous load of BS I've ever tried to pass off on this board  . IDKY recently commented that Obama lies because it comes natural to him. It's in his nature; it's part of who and what he is. Obama is a liar at heart! Perhaps JMcC is just being who and what JMcC is---a left of center politician. It doesn't take any courage to stand up for something if you don't believe there's anything wrong with it to begin with. Maybe he does NOT lack bravery when dealing with the DEMS since he thinks as they do. There would be nothing to stand up to them about (in his opinion). Therefore, he wouldn't be a wimp, just an honest Joe---and sadly, he's honestly wrong on so many things.
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vicki530 wrote: Aldebaran wrote: Here is another example of why this country is in so much trouble. John McCain, one of our many moronic RINOs doesn't have the courage to stand up to the dems. How can someone who showed so much courage in Vietnam be such a wimp when facing democrats. We can't vet black democrat presidential candidates and we can't vet muslim Arabs. I'm sick of republican wimps.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/robert-spencer/huma-abedin-and-the-muslim-brotherhood-bachmann-vs-mccain/
Aldebaran, I have wondered whether JMcC is trying to earn his way into heaven. I'm serious, so please bear with me. Mt 5:9 says "Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the children ofGod." A peacemaker seeks to smooth out differences between opposing groups by compromise and composing a plan that leaves each party fairly happy and feeling there are rewards in it for them if they do a little give and take.. Should he have taken 2 Cor. 5:20 out of context, he might even consider himself to be an 'ambassador for Christ' on diplomatic missions to promote peaceful outcomes between aggrieved parties. Sounds nutty, but there are reasonably sane people out there who actually believe that's their role in life and it will help them earn a spot in heaven someday,
OR, that could easily be the most ridiculous load of BS I've ever tried to pass off on this board . IDKY recently commented that Obama lies because it comes natural to him. It's in his nature; it's part of who and what he is. Obama is a liar at heart! Perhaps JMcC is just being who and what JMcC is---a left of center politician. It doesn't take any courage to stand up for something if you don't believe there's anything wrong with it to begin with. Maybe he does NOT lack bravery when dealing with the DEMS since he thinks as they do. There would be nothing to stand up to them about (in his opinion). Therefore, he wouldn't be a wimp, just an honest Joe---and sadly, he's honestly wrong on so many things.
Well, who knows what's going through someone else's mind? You could be right with either one of your explanations.
Here is an excerpt I copied from about.com on McCain back when he was running for president:
An important component to averting another 9/11 is making sure American's intelligence community has the resources it needs to uncover plots at home and deploy covert operations abroad. McCain has been a vocal supporter of an independent 9/11 Commission to identify how to best address the terrorist threat and decrease our domestic vulnerability. He was an early advocate of the Department of Homeland Security and the creation of the U.S. Northern Command with the specific responsibility of protecting the U.S. homeland.
Yet he is against vetting a person with very close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, whose stated goal is "to sabotage the US's miserable house from within" because it looks racist. I guess maybe he is just stupid. More likely he is just in 'politician mode' and doesn't want to offend any voters.
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Funny...I just read an article on Yahoo about the RINOS taking stabs at Michelle Bachmann for wanting to make sure that the Muslim working for Hillary Clinton did not have ties to the Muslim Brotherhood! I see that you have already addressed that here....GOOD.
I too am getting pretty sick of those RINOS who have nothing better to do but shoot down members of their own party when they take a stand for something! Michelle Bachmann is a great lady---a Christian and a conservative with backbone and conviction, and what she is doing is nothing more than what Islamic experts would tell us to do! These RINOS need to read some books by Robert Spencer, Bridgette Gabriel, Noni Darwish, Pamela Gellar, etc. etc. and get their big heads out of the Arabian desert sand!!!!
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I probably should have mentioned that our own Governor, Bill Haslam (in Nashville) is under fire now for keeping a Muslim in a key position and also a homosexual. More conservative Republicans are getting frustrated with RINOS at all levels. Sadly, however, Mr. Haslam never really promoted himself as a conservative per se but more as a "moderate". I actually voted for a more conservative candidate in the GOP election.
Oh well....
And then there is the judges decision to let a controversial Mosque/Islamic Center open in Murfreesboro, just outside of Nashville despite continued protests by the townspeople who rightly fear the influence of Islam in their community.
As the world turns, the stomach churns....
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Aldebaran wrote:
Here is an excerpt I copied from about.com on McCain back when he was running for president:
An important component to averting another 9/11 is making sure American's intelligence community has the resources it needs to uncover plots at home and deploy covert operations abroad. McCain has been a vocal supporter of an independent 9/11 Commission to identify how to best address the terrorist threat and decrease our domestic vulnerability. He was an early advocate of the Department of Homeland Security and the creation of the U.S. Northern Command with the specific responsibility of protecting the U.S. homeland.
Yet he is against vetting a person with very close ties to the Muslim Brotherhood, whose stated goal is "to sabotage the US's miserable house from within" because it looks racist. I guess maybe he is just stupid. More likely he is just in 'politician mode' and doesn't want to offend any voters.
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For full disclosure...I voted for that RINO only to keep a vote from Obama. So I am not a McCain fan in any way, shape, or form...period. To use a spin-off from the film, Airplane, "I picked the wrong week to stop drinking,"... when pulling that lever for McCain, all I could think was, "This would be a good week to take up drinking." I made myself sick that day, having to throw my integrity out the door to (once again) vote for a candidate only because he was the safer and better of the two. (That is NOT to say though that McCain or MR are anywhere near on a par with Obama--that I would have to argue about. Despite any liberal concepts on the part of those 2 men, they do not hate this nation and think it needs to be cut down at its' roots and be reworked from a new (liberal) scratch.).
Review McC's 9-11 statements, then fast forward to 2012. I believe his was a lot of tough guy talk made by a man who was very angry and caught up in the recent-ness of the attack. He was in P.O'd mode, just as we were, and just as Prez Bush was. Prez B's tough rhetoric stirred our hearts and strengthened our determination to bring the barbarians to justice and take strong actions to prevent any recurrance of terrorist attacks on our homeland. Did McC & Prez B mean what they said then? I absolutely believe they absolutely meant it. But time passed and the wimping out started. These tough guys became sniveling ninnies the moment the perpetually fickle world opinion turned against us. The butt-kissing for oil and the sake of long time agreements and friendships with leaders of thug nations started influencing policy. While Bush talked tough he didn't always respond in a tough manner. McC apparently spoke what he really believes once he'd gotten past his anger over the attack. He showed himself for the Muslim-hugger he is....nothing more, nothing less. He has shown us his heart and his hand and made no effort any longer to deceive us. He's a Muzzie lover and butt kisser and he's honest about it. Again, he's honestly wrong. (As for Prez B, though buds with the Saudi royal family, it has to be remembered that any decisions he made at the time had to factor in that we need lots and lots of oil to run this country. He'd have been drawn and quartered if he'd made any move that stopped the flow of oil. So he deserves some patience and understanding on that. It has to be noted that he was responsible for financially crippling the barbarians, rendering them pretty useless at committing anymore huge atttacks against us).
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An interview with Walid Shoebat, a former PLO terrorist and grandson of one of Hitler's Middle East muslim cronies, who left Islam for Christianity and now speaks against Islam.
http://frontpagemag.com/2012/jamie-glazov/the-dark-muslim-brotherhood-world-of-huma-abedin-2-1/
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Jihad statistics from the religion of peace.
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm
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thereligionofpeace.com is keeping a Ramadan bombathon scorecard.
After day 5 of Ramadan:
Islamic terror attacks 51; deaths 257
Terror attacks by other religions 0; deaths 0
Terror attacks by anti-muslim right wingers 0; deaths 0
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Ok, so it's better that the parents of kids born outside of marriage be stoned to death, rather than giving them the option of getting married, or, these children having any parents at all, so the buried them both in four feet of ground, then beat them both to death with rocks.
“It was horrible,” he said, noting that the woman had moaned and cried out and that her partner had yelled something indistinct during the attack. “It was inhuman. They killed them like they were animals.”
I get so sick and tired of politicians telling me how Islam is a religion of peace, BULL COOKIES!!!
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LinusMaximus wrote: Ok, so it's better that the parents of kids born outside of marriage be stoned to death, rather than giving them the option of getting married, or, these children having any parents at all, so the buried them both in four feet of ground, then beat them both to death with rocks.
“It was horrible,” he said, noting that the woman had moaned and cried out and that her partner had yelled something indistinct during the attack. “It was inhuman. They killed them like they were animals.”
I get so sick and tired of politicians telling me how Islam is a religion of peace, BULL COOKIES!!!
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Treat a dog that way, in the USA, and you will probably go to jail. You will at least get a huge fine and be ostracized by the community.
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Herb wrote: LinusMaximus wrote: Ok, so it's better that the parents of kids born outside of marriage be stoned to death, rather than giving them the option of getting married, or, these children having any parents at all, so the buried them both in four feet of ground, then beat them both to death with rocks.
“It was horrible,” he said, noting that the woman had moaned and cried out and that her partner had yelled something indistinct during the attack. “It was inhuman. They killed them like they were animals.”
I get so sick and tired of politicians telling me how Islam is a religion of peace, BULL COOKIES!!!
Read Here
Treat a dog that way, in the USA, and you will probably go to jail. You will at least get a huge fine and be ostracized by the community. Honestly Herb, you are correct! Animals in this country get more consideration than women do in Muslim countries and if the media in this country had any guts they would denounce this evil with the same fervor they do when speaking about animal rights, gay rights, etc. Instead it's all about Obama, guns, beer summits, and occupy Wall Street. Women are being tortured and killed. Where are their priorities?
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The Shiaite Muslim World believe the return of the 12th Imam or the Mahadi is very close and the Ayatollahs in Iran believe they are going to usher it in by spreading destruction on the entire planet. What is scary is they really believe this with all their sick little hearts and with the current events in the Middle East, they believe the time is ripe.Iran say's it is prepared and expects war with in weeks. Watch the video.
http://www.worthynews.com/top/wnd-com-2012-07-iran-preparing-madhis-special-forces--cat_orig-world/
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48706267
"FORT HOOD COURT MARTIAL ON HOLD AGAIN OVER ACCUSED'S BEARD"
Ok, fine...put a bag on the guy's head and get it over with!
(Once again our laws, this time military protocol, is being used against us by a barbarian. Yo, military guys...remove the OCD stick from your posteriors and show this thug his stalling ploy has come to an abrupt end. Sayonara, low-life).
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vicki530 wrote: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/48706267
"FORT HOOD COURT MARTIAL ON HOLD AGAIN OVER ACCUSED'S BEARD"
Ok, fine...put a bag on the guy's head and get it over with!
(Once again our laws, this time military protocol, is being used against us by a barbarian. Yo, military guys...remove the OCD stick from your posteriors and show this thug his stalling ploy has come to an abrupt end. Sayonora, low-life).
Make it a plastic bag and I'll sign-off on it! !
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The Koran, Sura 5:33 - "The punishment of those who wage war against allah and his messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution, or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the hereafter."
The Coptic Christians in Egypt are finding this out first hand as some are being nailed to trees in front of the presidential palace. This is going on while the US continues to send $1.3 BILLION a year to Cairo.
http://reaganiterepublicanresistance.blogspot.com/2012/08/the-fruits-of-leading-from-behind.html
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Ramadan Bombathon Final Results from thereligionofpeace.com.
Islamic terror attacks: 260; Deaths 1206
Terror attacks by other religions: 0; Deaths 0
Attacks by angry racists: 1; Deaths 6
What a wonderful, productive holy month. %$@^@#$ Barbarians.
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http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/27/13499316-seventeen-villagers-beheaded-in-southern-afghanistan-after-music-party?lite
I am trying really hard not to hate these people. But it would appear the Taliban has never read "How to Make Friends and Influence People." And the Brits are talking to them, and even our gov't grudgingly admits doing the same. The Obama Admin sends my mind whirling back to the late 60's when liberal high school teachers made us write essays on "Oh, God, I have no mouth, but I must scream." That's our current Admin for you. Even with a mouth, you scream and scream, and you may as well just beat your head into the wall. They will keep talking to these soulless barbarians and keep flooding loser countries like Afghanistan with American dollars. All the while their land gets soaked in the blood of our young, so corrupt Mafioso types like Karzai can flounce about in decorative capes and rule like some SEIU thug. Enough of our blood, enough of our money, enough of casting our pearls before swine. Time to abandon all the barbarians of that region to themselves and their true natures. They have killed each other without mercy long before they had us to annihilate. Time to let them have at it. Time to leave that part of the world to their own devices. Time to throw the Muslim-lover out.
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vicki530 wrote: http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/27/13499316-seventeen-villagers-beheaded-in-southern-afghanistan-after-music-party?lite
I am trying really hard not to hate these people. But it would appear the Taliban has never read "How to Make Friends and Influence People." And the Brits are talking to them, and even our gov't grudgingly admits doing the same. The Obama Admin sends my mind whirling back to the late 60's when liberal high school teachers made us write essays on "Oh, God, I have no mouth, but I must scream." That's our current Admin for you. Even with a mouth, you scream and scream, and you may as well just beat your head into the wall. They will keep talking to these soulless barbarians and keep flooding loser countries like Afghanistan with American dollars. All the while their land gets soaked in the blood of our young, so corrupt Mafioso types like Karzai can flounce about in decorative capes and rule like some SEIU thug. Enough of our blood, enough of our money, enough of casting our pearls before swine. Time to abandon all the barbarians of that region to themselves and their true natures. They have killed each other without mercy long before they had us to annihilate. Time to let them have at it. Time to leave that part of the world to their own devices. Time to throw the Muslim-lover out.
"Allah did not create man so that he could have fun. The aim of creation was for mankind to be put to the test through hardship and prayer. An Islamic regime must be serious in every field. There are no jokes in Islam. There is no humor in Islam. There is no fun in Islam. There can be no fun and joy in whatever is serious." -- Ayatollah Khomeini
Well, we now know that there WERE 17 moderate muslims in the world. I wonder how many of the rest of the millions of moderate muslims we keep hearing about will come out and condemn this barbaric act or, more importantly, do something about it. I'm not gonna hold my breath.
An eleven year old girl with Down's Syndrome was beaten and is under death sentence in Pakistan for blasphemy. She is a young Christian girl and she burned some pages out of the Koran. If we truly want to help these people who are brutalized by the lunatic muslim supremacists we have to stop playing kissy face with these slimeballs. If our mission is not to wipe out this evil then we need to get the he** out of there.
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Who is doing the praying?
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The jumah at the DNC is right out of Yasser Arafat's playbook - split your sympathetic groups into factions that may seem to be contradictory on the surface, but are really united for a common goal. It is an Arab saying that the enemy of the enemy is the friend, and the ones in this country are brown enough that the DNC will jump all over them. It is a political alliance and Obama is their current leader.
He needs to go and he needs to go soon. Afghanistan is a waste, and Karzai is beyond corrupt. He is just another community organizer that cried two months ago for his Taliban buddies to be released from GITMO. I wonder if some of them weren't behind this attack over dancing. I still this country is trying to nation-build in a Muslim country that only the MB has a shot at. If the US really manages to vote out Obama, he may release all of GITMO just for spite. He is like that.
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I agree, our approach in Afghanistan and Iraq both where all wrong. We should have just went there took care of business and left them a smouldering heap of rubble. No government or infrastructure building, no aid and no training of police and soldiers that where going to turn their guns back on us. It is insane for us to try and teach these people something that is so beyond their understanding. They do not have the ability to appreciate or even understand true freedom. They are and always will be the son's of Ishmael who always will be angry, crazy and have a taste for blood. Been that way for centuries and the only way to stop it is to let them kill each other and then go finish off who ever is left. Of course that won't happen either because we have to be TOLERANT and UNDERSTANDING.
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antiplaster wrote: The jumah at the DNC is right out of Yasser Arafat's playbook - split your sympathetic groups into factions that may seem to be contradictory on the surface, but are really united for a common goal. It is an Arab saying that the enemy of the enemy is the friend, and the ones in this country are brown enough that the DNC will jump all over them. It is a political alliance and Obama is their current leader.
He needs to go and he needs to go soon. Afghanistan is a waste, and Karzai is beyond corrupt. He is just another community organizer that cried two months ago for his Taliban buddies to be released from GITMO. I wonder if some of them weren't behind this attack over dancing. I still this country is trying to nation-build in a Muslim country that only the MB has a shot at. If the US really manages to vote out Obama, he may release all of GITMO just for spite. He is like that.
It looks like the MB does definitely have a shot at it, antiplaster. All they have to do is kill off all of their opposition. Then they are free to practice shariah to their sick heart's content. This is hard to believe but they do enjoy this kind of sick cruelty.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/
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vicki530 wrote: antiplaster wrote: The jumah at the DNC is right out of Yasser Arafat's playbook - split your sympathetic groups into factions that may seem to be contradictory on the surface, but are really united for a common goal. It is an Arab saying that the enemy of the enemy is the friend, and the ones in this country are brown enough that the DNC will jump all over them. It is a political alliance and Obama is their current leader.
He needs to go and he needs to go soon. Afghanistan is a waste, and Karzai is beyond corrupt. He is just another community organizer that cried two months ago for his Taliban buddies to be released from GITMO. I wonder if some of them weren't behind this attack over dancing. I still this country is trying to nation-build in a Muslim country that only the MB has a shot at. If the US really manages to vote out Obama, he may release all of GITMO just for spite. He is like that.
It looks like the MB does definitely have a shot at it, antiplaster. All they have to do is kill off all of their opposition. Then they are free to practice shariah to their sick heart's content. This is hard to believe but they do enjoy this kind of sick cruelty.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/
Here's some more sickness from Obama's favorite religion.
Islamic sickos
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Aldebaran wrote:
vicki530 wrote: antiplaster wrote: The jumah at the DNC is right out of Yasser Arafat's playbook - split your sympathetic groups into factions that may seem to be contradictory on the surface, but are really united for a common goal. It is an Arab saying that the enemy of the enemy is the friend, and the ones in this country are brown enough that the DNC will jump all over them. It is a political alliance and Obama is their current leader.
He needs to go and he needs to go soon. Afghanistan is a waste, and Karzai is beyond corrupt. He is just another community organizer that cried two months ago for his Taliban buddies to be released from GITMO. I wonder if some of them weren't behind this attack over dancing. I still this country is trying to nation-build in a Muslim country that only the MB has a shot at. If the US really manages to vote out Obama, he may release all of GITMO just for spite. He is like that.
It looks like the MB does definitely have a shot at it, antiplaster. All they have to do is kill off all of their opposition. Then they are free to practice shariah to their sick heart's content. This is hard to believe but they do enjoy this kind of sick cruelty.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/
Here's some more sickness from Obama's favorite religion.
Islamic sickos
Ahh now, they are just going back to the fine morals that the founder of their faith, Mohammad set in the beginning.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htmLast edited on Wed Aug 29th, 2012 05:49 pm by Gobblerblaster
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Oh yeah, Aisha, the one the Great Prophet married when she was seven years old and he was 54 and he "consummated" the marriage (his fourth at least) when she was nine. Sharia law is derived directly from the Koran, and any country under Shiite rule such as Iran is going to want this.
The Allahtoyah has long since advocated for more childbrides and he's been a big proponent of nikah mut'ah, "temporary marriage", and those aren't included in those stats. Most Americans, except for liberals who ignore this Shiia practice, know what it it is and it is a form of legalized prostitution for men only, of course. They can pay and marry any woman or little girl to "marry" them according to their own terms for as little as half an hour. Afterwards, if the "marriage" is consummated, the girl can't marry again until three months have passed but of course Muslim men can just go on to the next one if they have the money to pay the girl's father and cleric.
BOTH of these clerics that are supposed to lead the wailing at the DNC support this and all of Sharia law. One has even called for the overthrow of the "filthy" US government and I'd like to think that if this is televised it will change some minds but you can't fix stupid.
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Gobblerblaster wrote: Aldebaran wrote:
vicki530 wrote: antiplaster wrote: The jumah at the DNC is right out of Yasser Arafat's playbook - split your sympathetic groups into factions that may seem to be contradictory on the surface, but are really united for a common goal. It is an Arab saying that the enemy of the enemy is the friend, and the ones in this country are brown enough that the DNC will jump all over them. It is a political alliance and Obama is their current leader.
He needs to go and he needs to go soon. Afghanistan is a waste, and Karzai is beyond corrupt. He is just another community organizer that cried two months ago for his Taliban buddies to be released from GITMO. I wonder if some of them weren't behind this attack over dancing. I still this country is trying to nation-build in a Muslim country that only the MB has a shot at. If the US really manages to vote out Obama, he may release all of GITMO just for spite. He is like that.
It looks like the MB does definitely have a shot at it, antiplaster. All they have to do is kill off all of their opposition. Then they are free to practice shariah to their sick heart's content. This is hard to believe but they do enjoy this kind of sick cruelty.
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/arab-spring-run-amok-brotherhood-starts-crucifixions/
Here's some more sickness from Obama's favorite religion.
Islamic sickos
Ahh now, they are just going back to the fine morals that the founder of their faith, Mohammad set in the beginning.
http://www.faithfreedom.org/Articles/sina/ayesha.htm
 Gee, I always thought the Muslim concept of having multiple wives meant they kept several adult women in their households to produce a multitude of new little Muzzies. Numbers are important to them, particularly in their desire to take over the world, starting with Israel or the US. Either, or...works for them, as they see us both as Satan('s spawn). And for such sour pusses, they sure do enjoy their physical gratification, apparently the sicker, the better.
But I guess I was wrong. Looks like the new, improved Islam's take on having multiple wives is "use 'em and lose 'em." Marry babies whose odds are great in dying either from the consummation of marriage or the delivery of babies before their bodies are ready to handle childbirth. And their medical knowledge is seriously lacking since it is not true that females are automatically ready for childbearing just because they've 'started.' Instead of having 5 living wives, they now have bragging rights if they've already had 10 child wives whom they've killed off by their perverse doctrine and it's implementation. "Now serving number 11!" And we are constantly told that all religions are created equal, and 'if it works for you that's what matters.' Islam works great for men but it doesn't work well if you happen to be a female, a child, sometimes a young boy or even a sheep that crosses their sick paths at the wrong moment. And THESE are Obama's good buddies??? It's too much to take in .
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antiplaster wrote: Oh yeah, Aisha, the one the Great Prophet married when she was seven years old and he was 54 and he "consummated" the marriage (his fourth at least) when she was nine. Sharia law is derived directly from the Koran, and any country under Shiite rule such as Iran is going to want this.
The Allahtoyah has long since advocated for more childbrides and he's been a big proponent of nikah mut'ah, "temporary marriage", and those aren't included in those stats. Most Americans, except for liberals who ignore this Shiia practice, know what it it is and it is a form of legalized prostitution for men only, of course. They can pay and marry any woman or little girl to "marry" them according to their own terms for as little as half an hour. Afterwards, if the "marriage" is consummated, the girl can't marry again until three months have passed but of course Muslim men can just go on to the next one if they have the money to pay the girl's father and cleric.
BOTH of these clerics that are supposed to lead the wailing at the DNC support this and all of Sharia law. One has even called for the overthrow of the "filthy" US government and I'd like to think that if this is televised it will change some minds but you can't fix stupid.
OMG, I am sick. I didn't know they could do all that! How is it possible for anyone to vote for people who know about this and look the other way. Maybe they don't...maybe they actually give them a wink and a nod.
How is this possible? When I see a little kid I want to give them a cookie, not jump the poor little thing. I get it about individuals who are sickos, but how can a religion or a set of nations think this is okay?
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And we are now getting the evidence proving the Muslims have taken up crucifying their opposition, be it real or only perceived. Please choose NOT to view the video of the man on the cross; you will regret it. But the video in this article of the garbage the Muslims are pulling on the Coptic Christians is one I think is important. It is utterly gut-wrenching and may leave you grief-stricken. But if we don't look at things because they are so hard and so evil, we'll know nothing of what others are going through...and who will help them?
I know both Asians and Arabs have a custom of wailing and carrying on like drama queens when they are upset or mourning. So, it might take a little determination to get past that and watch the video. And they are doing this to these people for no other reason than they are Coptic Christians. (I know how you feel about excessive WND links, Hokie, but with the election business it's easy to miss this, so I apologize in advance).
http://www.wnd.com/2012/08/shocking-video-evidence-of-islamic-crucifixion/
***Ok, that was unclear. There are 2 videos on the site. One that shows the crucifixion and one on the plight of the Coptic Christians.
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vicki530 wrote: antiplaster wrote: Oh yeah, Aisha, the one the Great Prophet married when she was seven years old and he was 54 and he "consummated" the marriage (his fourth at least) when she was nine. Sharia law is derived directly from the Koran, and any country under Shiite rule such as Iran is going to want this.
The Allahtoyah has long since advocated for more childbrides and he's been a big proponent of nikah mut'ah, "temporary marriage", and those aren't included in those stats. Most Americans, except for liberals who ignore this Shiia practice, know what it it is and it is a form of legalized prostitution for men only, of course. They can pay and marry any woman or little girl to "marry" them according to their own terms for as little as half an hour. Afterwards, if the "marriage" is consummated, the girl can't marry again until three months have passed but of course Muslim men can just go on to the next one if they have the money to pay the girl's father and cleric.
BOTH of these clerics that are supposed to lead the wailing at the DNC support this and all of Sharia law. One has even called for the overthrow of the "filthy" US government and I'd like to think that if this is televised it will change some minds but you can't fix stupid.
OMG, I am sick. I didn't know they could do all that! How is it possible for anyone to vote for people who know about this and look the other way. Maybe they don't...maybe they actually give them a wink and a nod.
How is this possible? When I see a little kid I want to give them a cookie, not jump the poor little thing. I get it about individuals who are sickos, but how can a religion or a set of nations think this is okay?
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There is no longer any doubt in my mind. Obama is not just a muslim he is a jihadist sympathizer working to overthrow this country. He cannot possibly be unaware of the backgrounds of these people and yet he is bosom buddies with them.
All these jihadists should hate Obama's guts for bin Laden's death but they don't. And remember Obama didn't want to do it. Panetta and Hillary had to talk him into it. He probably figured that politically he had to go along with it. He hosted a stupid end of Ramadan Iftar dinner with these creeps. He is way too cozy with these America haters who have publicly stated they want to overthrow this country. He is one of them.
We are at a stage in our history right now that is very similar to what Germany was in the late 20s as the Nazi party got more and more powerful and all kinds of people looked the other way hoping the problem would go away. Well, it didn't go away then and it isn't going away now. This slimeball must be defeated in November.
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Sure they do but I think the atheists have taken over their party for now. The delegates stripped out for the first time any mention of God, took out condemning infanticide, fully endorsed gay marriage, and refuses to acknowledge Jersualem as the capitol of Israel in their official party platform. They don't believe that a creator made man that made government, and they mention their demi-god Obama over and over again in the draft.
Dhimmicrats will be Dhimmicrats but after a bad PR day, they backtracked on some of this:
http://youtu.be/cncbOEoQbOg
Who's the tard now? They should have tried this vote on the word "allah", then they wouldn't have have been booed.
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They were officially saying yesterday that the party platform originally voted on reflected BO's campaign. Now, today, they are saying BO personally intervened to have the amendments in the video introduced. Sounds to me like they are doing this just like Obamacare, welfare reform, etc. They don't really care what the people say, or what the laws (or in this case the rules) are. They just decide they are going to do it, and do it. That 2/3 vote in the majority in the "opinion" of the chair (there are more empty chairs than BO?) sure sounded like the opposite to me. More like 2/3 no. For sure not 2/3 Aye. These people don't even listen to their own base!
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Gobblerblaster wrote: They still see us a bunch of apathetic, ignorant, morons.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2012/September/DNC-Imam-Muslims-Christians-Have-Much-in-Common/
This Imam says, "If they [Christians] knew how much we love Jesus, they wouldn't criticize us." Say, what?? Muslims just love Jesus, oh really? And what Jesus would that be? The Palestinian freedom fighter that a delusional Arafat tried laying on us? Lots of people in this world believe in Jesus, but many of those people don't know the Jesus of the Bible. He is a Jesus of their own making. Anyone can say they believe in or love Jesus, but again, what Jesus are they admiring or following? Big deal, talk is cheap, and being a follower or admirer of some unbiblical, plastic Jesus will get you no where. A bad or false root can only produce bad or wrong fruit. You love Jesus, Imam?....we've seen the fruit of your warped and self-centered version of Jesus. Thanks, but no thanks, we don't need to know of your great love of Jesus. Been there, done that and the bodies of our people just keep piling up, starting well before Sept 11. You claim to love the Jesus of the Christians, but you pile those very Christians on an altar and sacrifice them to your insatiable, bloodthirsty Allah. So, just kindly cut the bullcrap, Imam, we have your twisted, mouth-filled-with-lies, number.
And if there are so many peace-loving, loyal American Muslims who supposedly don't approve of what their savage brethren do...why don't they take a cue from the Tea Party and form their own grassroots group to take a public stand against their good buddies? These people aren't fooling us either. We see their winks and feel their nudges. Sorry, not buying it.
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vicki530 wrote:
Gobblerblaster wrote: They still see us a bunch of apathetic, ignorant, morons.
http://www.cbn.com/cbnnews/politics/2012/September/DNC-Imam-Muslims-Christians-Have-Much-in-Common/
This Imam says, "If they [Christians] knew how much we love Jesus, they wouldn't criticize us." Say, what?? Muslims just love Jesus, oh really? And what Jesus would that be? The Palestinian freedom fighter that a delusional Arafat tried laying on us? Lots of people in this world believe in Jesus, but many of those people don't know the Jesus of the Bible. He is a Jesus of their own making. Anyone can say they believe in or love Jesus, but again, what Jesus are they admiring or following? Big deal, talk is cheap, and being a follower or admirer of some unbiblical, plastic Jesus will get you no where. A bad or false root can only produce bad or wrong fruit. You love Jesus, Imam?....we've seen the fruit of your warped and self-centered version of Jesus. Thanks, but no thanks, we don't need to know of your great love of Jesus. Been there, done that and the bodies of our people just keep piling up, starting well before Sept 11. You claim to love the Jesus of the Christians, but you pile those very Christians on an altar and sacrifice them to your insatiable, bloodthirsty Allah. So, just kindly cut the bullcrap, Imam, we have your twisted, mouth-filled-with-lies, number.
And if there are so many peace-loving, loyal American Muslims who supposedly don't approve of what their savage brethren do...why don't they take a cue from the Tea Party and form their own grassroots group to take a public stand against their good buddies? These people aren't fooling us either. We see their winks and feel their nudges. Sorry, not buying it.
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“The worst possible allies for the Jewish state are the fundamentalist Christians who want Jews to die and convert so they can bring on the second coming of their Lord.” - Mark Alan Siegel, the Palm Beach County Democrat Chairman, Sept. 6, 2012
Somebody needs a theology lesson, that would be the fundamentalist Muslims. Putz.
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antiplaster wrote: “The worst possible allies for the Jewish state are the fundamentalist Christians who want Jews to die and convert so they can bring on the second coming of their Lord.” - Mark Alan Siegel, the Palm Beach County Democrat Chairman, Sept. 6, 2012
Somebody needs a theology lesson, that would be the fundamentalist Muslims. Putz.
It's always the same old lies with this bunch. And how can they convert if we put their death on the list b4 their conversion? They never give Christians any credit for supporting Israel on the basis of having been allies with them since they once again became a state. It's a point of honor for one thing. And even those Christians who do support Israel based solely on the Scriptures are still valuable allies. I have yet to hear any Israeli leader whine about being supported by Fundamentalists. They aren't stupid, Israel with take her allies wherever she can get them. You're right, antiplaster, his comment would be a perfect description of what fundamentalist Muslims want. His remark would be excusable if it were mere ignorance, but that idiot believes his own words.
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Obama's chickens are coming home to roost in Egypt, and they are doing it on the lawn of our Embassy. I have had it with all this bull about Islam being a religion of peace garbage and I have also had it with the lies of the POTUS and State Department trying to sugar coat the situation in these places. All countries who have as their dominant religion Islam, should be left to their own demise with no US aid, no military help and should be completly destroyed if they even hint at making a threat at the US or our ally Israel.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/11/egyptian-protesters-scale-us-embassy-wall-in-cairo/
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loner1115 wrote:
Gobblerblaster wrote: Obama's chickens are coming home to roost in Egypt, and they are doing it on the lawn of our Embassy. I have had it with all this bull about Islam being a religion of peace garbage and I have also had it with the lies of the POTUS and State Department trying to sugar coat the situation in these places. All countries who have as their dominant religion Islam, should be left to their own demise with no US aid, no military help and should be completly destroyed if they even hint at making a threat at the US or our ally Israel.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/11/egyptian-protesters-scale-us-embassy-wall-in-cairo/
And this.
American killed in Libya protest over film
CAIRO (AP) — Protesters angered over a film that ridiculed Islam's Prophet Muhammad fired gunshots and burned down the U.S. consulate in the eastern Libyan city of Benghazi, killing one American, witnesses and the State Department said. In Egypt, protesters scaled the walls of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, and tore and replaced the American flag with an Islamic banner.
http://hosted2.ap.org/APDEFAULT/3d281c11a96b4ad082fe88aa0db04305/Article_2012-09-12-Prophet%20Film/id-4d3470aacc3b49f292586d726758532b
http://twitchy.com/2012/09/11/president-obama-silent-while-us-consulate-in-libya-burned/
I have to ask myself, why aren't these being treated and seen for what they are. Physical Acts of War against the USA?
Do we really think that the Muzzie Sympathizer in Chief has a grasp on this situation ? He created it.
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This is why Obama will do nothing except continue to put distance between us and Israel and continue to look the other way when we are attacked by Islamofascist.
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America has been dooped. Obama has more respect for Islam than for America. Watch the youtube clip before it gets pulled.
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28
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Mustng959 wrote:
And that American in Libya wasn't just an American .... he was the ambassador!
I'm not hearing anything about the Marines that should be guarding these embassies. ???
I do know that Marines are usually stationed at all of our embassies and I don't know where they where in Egypt or if they where involved. It is being reported that there was only a Consolate in Libya, which probably would not have the same contingent of Marines. Of course this is turning out to be just another failure in Obama's long list and in the key area of Foreign policy where they just got through talking about his superiority over Romney because he has experience. What a joke. I would not be surprised to see other embassies under seige before this is over. Obama is coming out to the Rose garden in a couple of hours to try and pour more Sugar coating on the Dog Turd that is his collosal failure as CIC.Last edited on Wed Sep 12th, 2012 01:35 pm by Gobblerblaster
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Did the State Department apologize yet to the Libyan murderers? Seventy years ago Obama and Hillary would have apologized to Hitler. All of this murdering lunacy over a stupid movie? Muslims are insane.
God help us when these lunatics get nuclear weapons. I hope Israel takes out the Iranian nuke plants soon. Of course, if and when they do, Obama will be outraged by it.
Last edited on Wed Sep 12th, 2012 03:03 pm by Aldebaran
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Until we, as a country, admit that we are in a religious war with the religion of islam, and start acting like it, we will never get a handle on this.
We may not believe it is a religious war, but the muslims dang sure believe it. AND it is NOT just a war with the radical muslims or terrorist, it is a war of the basic ideology of islam.
It is individual freedom vs slavery to a specific religion. Nothing else. We are under attack for the simple reason that we do not believe the way they do, nothing else. If that is not a religious war, I don't know what it is.
We have people in this country, and on this board, that want to appease the evil of islam. It never has worked, never will work.
We have the same 3 choices that the Christians of the Crusades had, fight and defeat the forces of islam, bow down to it and pay the tax, or die.
Nation building, like we are attempting in Iraq and Afghanistan, with muslim as the governing force, will come back to bite us in the posterior. If we are successful in building them into viable nations, they will soon become our enemies, just as Iran is now.
My opinion is (not so humble either), our best bet is to foment trouble between the different sects of islam and keep them fighting amongst themselves, when one faction starts winning we assist the other.
If people think the world has a problem with islam now, wait until they get their differences solved. Then we will see the real problem.
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Herb wrote:
Until we, as a country, admit that we are in a religious war with the religion of islam, and start acting like it, we will never get a handle on this.
We may not believe it is a religious war, but the muslims dang sure believe it. AND it is NOT just a war with the radical muslims or terrorist, it is a war of the basic ideology of islam.
It is individual freedom vs slavery to a specific religion. Nothing else. We are under attack for the simple reason that we do not believe the way they do, nothing else. If that is not a religious war, I don't know what it is.
We have people in this country, and on this board, that want to appease the evil of islam. It never has worked, never will work.
We have the same 3 choices that the Christians of the Crusades had, fight and defeat the forces of islam, bow down to it and pay the tax, or die.
Nation building, like we are attempting in Iraq and Afghanistan, with muslim as the governing force, will come back to bite us in the posterior. If we are successful in building them into viable nations, they will soon become our enemies, just as Iran is now.
My opinion is (not so humble either), our best bet is to forment trouble between the different sects of islam and keep them fighting amongst themselves, when one faction starts winning we assist the other.
If people think the world has a problem with islam now, wait until they get their differences solved. Then we will see the real problem.
This is one place where we agree 100% Herb, well kinda. Myself, I would be for dropping the Bomb on Mecca and Medena and getting it over with and deal with what comes next but, of course I realize that there are to many who would want a more measured approach.
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Gobblerblaster wrote: Herb wrote:
Until we, as a country, admit that we are in a religious war with the religion of islam, and start acting like it, we will never get a handle on this.
We may not believe it is a religious war, but the muslims dang sure believe it. AND it is NOT just a war with the radical muslims or terrorist, it is a war of the basic ideology of islam.
It is individual freedom vs slavery to a specific religion. Nothing else. We are under attack for the simple reason that we do not believe the way they do, nothing else. If that is not a religious war, I don't know what it is.
We have people in this country, and on this board, that want to appease the evil of islam. It never has worked, never will work.
We have the same 3 choices that the Christians of the Crusades had, fight and defeat the forces of islam, bow down to it and pay the tax, or die.
Nation building, like we are attempting in Iraq and Afghanistan, with muslim as the governing force, will come back to bite us in the posterior. If we are successful in building them into viable nations, they will soon become our enemies, just as Iran is now.
My opinion is (not so humble either), our best bet is to forment trouble between the different sects of islam and keep them fighting amongst themselves, when one faction starts winning we assist the other.
If people think the world has a problem with islam now, wait until they get their differences solved. Then we will see the real problem.
This is one place where we agree 100% Herb, well kinda. Myself, I would be for dropping the Bomb on Mecca and Medena and getting it over with and deal with what comes next but, of course I realize that there are to many who would want a more measured approach.
Actually we seem to agree pretty much completely on the solution.
HOWEVER, being a realist, I know that would never happen (too many stupid people), so I am looking at the next best solution.
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for now,
There are also those who are not so much willfully ignorant, but rather, wishful-thinking Pollyannas and the downright delusional. No matter what the case, happy thoughts about people who are devoted to "a religion void of any morsel of human decency," are sure to end in tragedy for the clueless Polyannas and those knowledgeable realists who've long warned of impending disaster 'Islamic-style.' They will never, ever learn. 
